thx for the tips guys. The tops and sides of my shoulders kill the most, they are probably the weakest part of my body atm and they got the hardest work out. I am going to get some potassium supplements and I have been stretching and rotating my arms. I worked out really hard on wednesday, recovered last night (thurs) and did nothing really, and tonight I have wing chun class(friday) so I won't do any physical conditioning outside of dummy work, chi sao, and forms. Then tomorrow I have my 6 elbows class at 8am. They are going to work out, but I may hold off if my shoulders are still this sore.

What about balms and such? anyone have any luck with any of those?

I will try the cold shower thing, I assume that icepacks would work in the same fashion?

Thanks again for the tips guys.