Quote Originally Posted by SevenStar
It may seem like I'm picking on you, but I'm not... I just don't like any of your posts

"safe ground environment" is about as overused as the "all fights go to the ground" thing. I work in a bar and have gone to the ground several times.
One time I was doing some sparring on concrete... The epitome of the "unsafe ground environment". I was fighting a guy whose standing game was better than mine so I decided to try and take it to the ground. I managed an opening for a throw leading off of a jab he left hanging out for a microsecond too long and hucked him to the ground. You know what? Throwing this guy over my back (IE: Up 6 feet) and then smacking him with the concrete ground didn't even wind him. He literally kicked at my legs once and rolled back to his feet because I was too slow going down and trying for a mount. My point? The ground is not necessarily fatal in the street. Now still I'd not want to be on the ground facing multiple opponents.... but I never have been.