At my high school these two kids were dicussing their martial arts styles. One kid was a Shaolin-Do practitioner the other was bjj. The bjj guy said SD was a load of crap after a while. So they actually got into a fight and the shaolin-do guywon. I'm no proponent of SD but it seems like it works. Feel free to post but please don't use vulgarities even if you add *or @. Thanks.