Hi everyone,
I was reading a thread on a forum and someone put up a link to a thread by a certain john/jack springer. This is the link:
http://z15.invisionfree.com/TruthMar...?showtopic=158

I hadn't known or heard much about the Mr springer individual so I asked on the forum EF about who his teacher was and what lineage.

Link :http://www.emptyflower.com/cgi-bin/y...966834;start=0

http://www.emptyflower.com/cgi-bin/y...66834;start=15

Got told to go ask the man so I did here.
http://z15.invisionfree.com/TruthMar...pic=158&st=140

It seems that springer is very touchy about the question and he's got a lot of supporters on EF yet he and his supporters is unable to simply answer the question of who is his hung gar teacher and what lineage.

Based on his behaviour and that of his supporters :
What this tells me is that:
* There is something to hide. (Avoiding the questions and then change the subject by shooting insults and accusing troll and not following 'forum rules' which were NOT set out in the register page.)

* Mr. Springer and supporters are insecure. (Why else feel so threatened by a simple question/s and the need to shoot the insults and find excuses for not anwering a straight question. Instead, you have excuses.

*Mr Springer's comments are to be taken with a grain of salt, if any attention is to be given at all. I'm very suspicious he is a fraud with no legitimate lineage.

Google shows these links
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=36075

http://lionsroar.name/master_john_f_springer.htm

Note in the lionsroar website nowhere does he mention who is Hung Gar teacher was. It also doesn't explain what lineage although it mentions the name wong fei hung. Makes me very suspicious.

Does anyone have any comments to confirm or defend ?


that is not just blind support (in my opinion for a fraud) with nothing to back it up, like the people at EF who just call troll but have nothing of any substance to support springer is not a fraud in Hung gar.
(EF people don't bother responding as I like to call BS what it is : BS, and you BS supporters opinions are not worth very much).

For other folks here, sorry for the bit of 'heat', but I'm just not impressed with the outright insults they gave me for asking a simple question initially which wasn't impolite or rude. You can check the threads in the links for yourself.

Thanks people.