double "B" cool. thanks for your input.

I've been fortunate to read the Hung Mun book thats out of print now.......but there is some real interesting things from back.

From that book, and amongst other sources.......man of the southern Chinese men changed their first names to include HUNG in it to show their support.

but im not sure what origins Hung Mun Kuen has. emei? hubei? not sure. but they said there's a hung mun hard qigong shaolin form out there.