Quote Originally Posted by Piercinghammer View Post
I don't wish to come across as impolite:

Anyone who is training their iron palm method using mung beans, sand
or pea gravel is really just wasting their valuable time and effort. The only,
and I will say again "only" method to get absolute results is to use about 100 lbs
of lead shot packed very carefully into a leather or lined "heavy" canvas bag.
The training is mildy dangerous, in that if you do not watch how you hit this bag
you will injure yourself.

The medicine must have a great deal of resins in it to seal off the skin from
the slight potential of the lead coming through the bag " but it will not".

The training should be done 2 times per day for a total of 500 strikes per day
after you have reached about the 40th day of training.

Strict attention must be used with this training, it is not for the knucklehead who
cannot understand what a relaxed body is and hit's the bag with force.
YOU WILL BREAK YOUR HAND.

This is to be done every day without missing, you should not " cannot"
break the training if you can help it within the first 100 days.

"The Mind leads the Chi. This has an association with the odor of the medicine.
The odor of the medicine should trigger the movement of the chi. you will know this
when you smell the finished medicine and your saliva glands start to produce.
This movement must then be controlled and channeled with specific mental
"qi gong" exercises. before and throughout training.

This is the way things were done in the old school, prior to people selling
their video's and iron plam programs. I had dinner with a very well known
Northern Shaolin master some years back who was doing this mung bean and sand method with the video tapes and liniment sales angle. My feeling was
that he felt this method was a safe way to introduce a person to this type of
training, make money and not get tangled up with attorneys when somone
hurts themselves.... but authentic, for true results, it would never fly in some
places. and it has never flown with me.

I will be doing a complete article in inside Kung fu on this subject, enough years have passed.


Mike Biggie

7 Star praying mantis
Hung sing Choy li fut
Right on, though 100lbs of lead shot seems to be a bit much, I mean, what size hand do you have ??