Jim Hawkins
M Y V T K F
"You should have kicked him in the ball_..."—Sifu
You sound like a man with experience in these matters.In this case you should always regain control of the beer first.... So IOW lop the beer.. Otherwise it will spill as you lop his arm...
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
I am about to start billing you for all the free martial arts information that I give you. A pretty standard tacit used in mma is to use an undertook on one side of the opponents body and to pull down the opponent's other hand with a lop sao. From that position a variety of offensive activities can occur. Lop saos occur all the time to move peoples hands out of the way for strikes both in the ground and in the clinch.
There is more than one kind of lop... Nevertheless pulling their arm out can certainly set up an arm drag.. How can it not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3o6QjvRQ2U
Jim Hawkins
M Y V T K F
"You should have kicked him in the ball_..."—Sifu
Jim Hawkins
M Y V T K F
"You should have kicked him in the ball_..."—Sifu
THAT is what you are considering a lap sao? That works fine. However, there's something wrong with a system that has one set of techniques that works and another that doesn't work, meanwhile naming them all the same.
Maybe WC needs to have two sets of naming protocols with different prefixes:
doesn't work technique
and
works technique
Another case for the lop is when the opponent's strike fires deeply into your arms/guard.. This is a natural conversion to a lop as his force is used to lop him...
Jim Hawkins
M Y V T K F
"You should have kicked him in the ball_..."—Sifu
What chi sau is, or isn't, or is, or wait, what is it..: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...2&postcount=90
About the vid that Dale Frank just posted:
THAT'S one way to enter into an arm drag - by starting with a lop sao. Yes...
And there are other ways to use lop sao.
Even Josh Barnett uses them (and labels them as such) on his vid "ATTACKING THE GUARD"...when on the ground and in someone's guard.
He learned it from Erik Paulson (who also appears in the vid).
And Josh also mentions chi sao as well.
Lop sao can be used in all three phases of fighting:
STAND-UP
CLINCH
GROUND