Lama Pai, Hop Gar, Bak Hok

[lkfmdc]

Reach of Tibetan empire for reference

[Gru Bianca]

Yup more then correct

[mickey]

Greetings,

I thought you guys might find this site useful. It has a crapload of stuff regarding Lion's Roar, along with some very rare photos for those looking for that historical connection:

http://www.lionsroar.name/


enjoy,

mickey

[sanjuro_ronin]

Greetings,

I thought you guys might find this site useful. It has a crapload of stuff regarding Lion's Roar, along with some very rare photos for those looking for that historical connection:

http://www.lionsroar.name/


enjoy,

mickey

That is Steve Richards site, its got lots of info on Lionsroar and SPM too.
Steve is a good guy, really nice guy too.

[brothernumber9]

There's the bait.

[Gru Bianca]

Undoubtedly an interesting read, it would have been better though if the sources of so many info were mentioned

[CharlesDaCosta]

The word Lama is a Tibetan word.It is a contraction of la na mei pa wich means "nothing higher" it is a translation of the sanscrit word guru.

It could still be a Tibetan word. What I am getting at is that the Label is also used by other Chan/Zen style Buddhists to refer to a Guru.

[CharlesDaCosta]

Greetings,

I thought you guys might find this site useful. It has a crapload of stuff regarding Lion's Roar, along with some very rare photos for those looking for that historical connection:

http://www.lionsroar.name/


enjoy,

mickey

I still find this site confusing and difficult to navigate (find what one is looking for). I do know that there is an Indian style called "Diamond Gate" "Indra's Fists" "Thunderbolt Fists" ... It may have been the Indian style that we got stuff from. I met someone from Eastern Europe and he did say they had a routine that was from Tibetan Martial arts.

I also know that Vajra Pani was at one time considered the ... of Some styles of Tibetan Martial Arts. I had adopted Her as the patron saint. The Term Lion's Roar or Lions' Roar may not be connected to what was mention there. It relates to two things: 1) the Buddha declaring his arrival (Enlightenment); and 2) the 4 Lions on the Indian Flag points ...

[chusauli]

I would say that Lion's Roar is the proclamation of the Dharma.

Most martial artists would find little meaning in that.

[lkfmdc]

I would say that Lion's Roar is the proclamation of the Dharma.

Most martial artists would find little meaning in that.

When the Buddha was born, he pointed one finger at the earth and one finger at heave and roared like a lion to announce his arrival

At least that's how the story goes

For people whom Buddhism is intricately woven into their life, I could see "Lion's Roar" being used as a term for their martial art

There IS in Tibet an Lion's Roar sect

[chusauli]

David,

I remember at one time you met the bodyguards of the Dalai Lama.

How much Lama type fist did they know compared to what Chan Tai Shan taught us? Personally, I don't think our art is from Tibet, but from Southern China.

[lkfmdc]

David,

I remember at one time you met the bodyguards of the Dalai Lama.

How much Lama type fist did they know compared to what Chan Tai Shan taught us? Personally, I don't think our art is from Tibet, but from Southern China.

there is, of course, a huge amount of southern Chinese kung fu in Lama Pai. There is also northern, Mongolian and Manchurian in there

There are however certain things that are in Tibetan martial arts that you can see in Lama pai.....

I don't think of Lama Pai as tibetan, I think it is a combo of a lot of traditions

[Gru Bianca]

there is, of course, a huge amount of southern Chinese kung fu in Lama Pai. There is also northern, Mongolian and Manchurian in there

There are however certain things that are in Tibetan martial arts that you can see in Lama pai.....

I don't think of Lama Pai as tibetan, I think it is a combo of a lot of traditions

Thanks for your post. May I ask what type of martial arts of Tibet you have been exposed to to be able to see the similarities with Lama Pai?

Thank you.

Regards

[Gru Bianca]

David,

I remember at one time you met the bodyguards of the Dalai Lama.

How much Lama type fist did they know compared to what Chan Tai Shan taught us? Personally, I don't think our art is from Tibet, but from Southern China.

And you would not be the only one to have that opinion. I met few people in Hongkong which they were mentioning the same thing, that's why I tried to gather some info at the Qingyunsi but with no luck.

[TenTigers]

Stephen P. Hayes was personal bodyguard to the Dalai Lama at one time.
Do you mean to say that CTS ....




was a NINJA???