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    Police just use CS spray in England instead of fancy locks

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRONMONK View Post
    Police just use CS spray in England instead of fancy locks
    Well, in Philly they just shoot people, or have several cops beat up one person.

    If anyone remembers MOVE back in the early 80's you'll know not to mess with Philly cops!!!!!

    In the MOVE incident, the Police burned down approximately 60 houses to get to those in one.

    "Philadelphia: 1980s, MOVE siege
    On May 13, 1985, the Philadelphia Police Department dropped a bomb on the roof of the Osage Avenue rowhouse compound of MOVE, an anarchists' group. The explosion led to a massive fire that destroyed 61 rowhomes in the West Philadelphia nieghborhood and the deaths of 11 people, including five children."

    http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/...980s_MOVE.html
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    I did a Ouija board last night and a message came through to get me to tell everybody on the Wing Chun KFM forum that you are all doing Bong Sau wrong and to get yourself to any good MMA or MT gym (or Alan Orr) and they will thrown you around like rag dolls. I didnt quite catch the spirits name but he was angry. It sounded like Clarence or something.......

    I think I may be possessed....Hi Robert!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sihing73 View Post
    Well, in Philly they just shoot people, or have several cops beat up one person.

    If anyone remembers MOVE back in the early 80's you'll know not to mess with Philly cops!!!!!

    In the MOVE incident, the Police burned down approximately 60 houses to get to those in one.

    "Philadelphia: 1980s, MOVE siege
    On May 13, 1985, the Philadelphia Police Department dropped a bomb on the roof of the Osage Avenue rowhouse compound of MOVE, an anarchists' group. The explosion led to a massive fire that destroyed 61 rowhomes in the West Philadelphia nieghborhood and the deaths of 11 people, including five children."

    http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/...980s_MOVE.html
    I've lived in bad areas in NY, CT, and Detroit but I've never seen a place like Philly where they shoot at cops all the time. I'm 5 miles from Philly so I get Philly news and I see it happen often. You can't blame Philly cops for being tough.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x1COyYQnvY

    In this clip, his opponent punches with left hand and he blocks with right Bong Sau. If his opponent punches with right hand and if he still blocks with his right Bong Sau, his opponent can slides his right hand down to his right wrist, and uses his left hand to press up on his right Bong Sau elbow.

    Will you always block your opponent's right punch with your left Bong Sau and never with your right Bong sau? Of course if you always do that, you won't have any risk for your Bong Sau because your opponent's punching arm can jam his other arm and prevent his other hand to reach to your elbow.

    Long time ago there was a WC guideline that you always use your left arm to block your opponent's right punch, and use your right arm to block your opponent's left punch. One tournament in Hong Kong (1970 or 1971?), a CLF guy used a right hook punch on a WC guy, the WC guy blocked with his left Tang Sau. The CLF guy's right hook punch went through the WC guy's left Tang Sau and still hit the WC guy's head. After that day, The WC system in Hong Kong bent that rule and that also generated the risk for using the right Bong Sau to block your opponent's right punch.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 02-15-2011 at 05:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x1COyYQnvY

    In this clip, his opponent punches with left hand and he blocks with right Bong Sau. If his opponent punches with right hand and if he still blocks with his right Bong Sau, his opponent can slides his right hand down to his right wrist, and uses his left hand to press up on his right Bong Sau elbow.

    Will you always block your opponent's right punch with your left Bong Sau and never with your right Bong sau? Of course if you always do that, you won't have any risk for your Bong Sau because your opponent's punching arm can jam his other arm and prevent his other hand to reach to your elbow.

    Long time ago there was a WC guideline that you always use your left arm to block your opponent's right punch, and use your right arm to block your opponent's left punch. One tournament in Hong Kong (1970 or 1971?), a CLF guy used a right hook punch on a WC guy, the WC guy blocked with his left Tang Sau. The CLF guy's right hook punch went through the WC guy's left Tang Sau and still hit the WC guy's head. After that day, The WC system in Hong Kong bent that rule and that also generated the risk for using the right Bong Sau to block your opponent's right punch.
    Nothing is written in stone in a fight. You do what's required to win at that moment.
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    [QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1078572
    Long time ago there was a WC guideline that you always use your left arm to block your opponent's right punch, and use your right arm to block your opponent's left punch. One tournament in Hong Kong (1970 or 1971?), a CLF guy used a right hook punch on a WC guy, the WC guy blocked with his left Tang Sau. The CLF guy's right hook punch went through the WC guy's left Tang Sau and still hit the WC guy's head. After that day, The WC system in Hong Kong bent that rule and that also generated the risk for using the right Bong Sau to block your opponent's right punch.[/QUOTE]
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    I don't watch clips generally. And selective anecdotes are neither analysis nor history.
    You dont do wc regularly and you are still looking for common themes without good guidelines IMO.

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    just cause one guy stuffed up in one fight doesnt mean they would change anything.

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