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Thread: Qi Jiguang's chapter on boxing in English

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    Quote Originally Posted by mig View Post
    I thought those were the novel genre or xiaoshuo in baihuawen as opposed to the classical written style as xiaojing, lunyu, zhongyong, the other schools texts and all others from the elite keeping the masses ignorant if you didn't know that kind of script language. Don't know how many kungfu practitioners were scholars from the wenlinyuan or elite schools. Sorry to highjacked this thread.
    without a teacher pointing out

    it is very difficult to read the old text

    zhi fu ye zhe 之夫也者 are usually used as periods or commas

    poems are in 4 characters, 6 characters or 7 characters

    so it is not that difficult to recite or remember


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    tai ji zhe yin yang ye

    tai ji ,

    is composed of yin and yang .


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    Qi Jiguang articles

    Here are four articles written that include quotes from QI Jiguang as well as other martial manuals from that era or the Qing Dynasty.

    The Barbarian Surrendering Maneuver

    Seizing the Opportunity

    This one compares elbow strikes of Shaolin and Mantis
    The Luan Elbow of Shaolin Luohan

    Tai Mountain Crushes the Top

    Some metion of the book Compilation of the Righteous Hall which was used by Qi Jiguang is in this article.
    General Yu and the Escaping Pirates

    During Qi Jiguang's era he would have been well versed in the book "Wu Jing Qi Shu" The Seven Military Classics of Ancient China. This article relates to the Tai Gung Hooks a Fish Maneuver in Qi Jiguang's spear method.
    Which is mentioned in this article
    Two Thousand Years of Mantis Warriors

    I have not compared my translations to other versions of Qi's text because they are hard to find or for the most part non-existant.

    It has been my experience during my 16 years in Taiwan that many of the terms are hard to define even by well educated lay people including those majoring in language or history.

    Chinese grammer and writing were somewhat revised during the Qing Dynasty by Emperor Kang Xi on the one hand and the dialectical differences of language even today, to say nothing of the Ming, can make translating such a work quite difficult.

    recently Chinese martial historian Ma Mingda (as well as others) has explained the meaning of Qi Jiguang's works as well as others from the Ming and Qing Dynasty.
    One of the biggest problems is that reprints of these works of which there were many almost always have portions added, subtracted or characters changed so that knowing the original authors intent, whether native speaker or not, becomes more and more difficult.

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    my computer says there are 38 viruses on your website

    i respect proffesor ma he is unbiased and is a great mattial artast
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    my computer says there are 38 viruses on your website
    Thanks. I thought I had fixed that. It isn't a virus on the site, but some file on bluehost server that shows up as a virus.
    I'll go back and try and fix it again.

    Kevin

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    Jixiao Xinshu (New Treatise on Military Efficiency) by Qi Jiguang

    There is an English translation of Qi Jiguangs chapter on Quan Fa in his Treatise and here are the pictures.

    My reading material for the weekend.

    ...should have known I wasn't the first one to find this.
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    "The Golden Rooster: stand on one leg and **** the head
    askew.
    Simultaneously position your leg and center your fist.
    Turn your back and assume the Reclined Ox stance, and drop
    both the arm and the leg in tandem from their elevated
    positions.
    Make contact and cry out "ku" unto the heavens."

    its supoosed to be "gold roster explodes up with knees and hooks, followed with a lying bull throw (judo reap) crushing the enemy under you, he cries out in pain"

    only arizona hilly billy who took east asian studies to get yellow poosy can fuk it up this bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    followed with a lying bull throw (judo reap) crushing the enemy under you, he cries out in pain"
    Do you know if this is referring to a specific reap, (Osoto Gari, Ko soto Gati, ect.)?
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    Do you know if this is referring to a specific reap, (Osoto Gari, Ko soto Gati, ect.)?
    small outer hook and small outer reap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    small outer hook and small outer reap.
    I've always likened golden rooster to the judo technique hiza guruma. This would be a combo, like hiza guruma to o soto gari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    small outer hook and small outer reap.
    Large outer reap works here too.

    Punch, knee, step down behind for takedown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStar View Post
    I've always likened golden rooster to the judo technique hiza guruma. This would be a combo, like hiza guruma to o soto gari.
    david ross has old video of one of his sanda students demonstrating the exact combo

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