Why is there not a single WC fighter, anywhere!!!!!!!!!

[anerlich]

you need a refresher course in 101 VT

And you need a refresher course in logic and common sense

[YouKnowWho]

That's the Vitor Belfort clip Frost and I were discussing.

Nothing whatever to do with Wing Chun, despite the wishes of (too) many.

I know. It's good skill. How to train to obtain that skill is what I'm interested in. One thing for sure is, you can't obtain skill like that by doing solo form only and that's for sure.

Good clip like this will be used for reference over and over. We just don't see good clip like this that often. It puts faith into our heart for certain combat skill.

[k gledhill]

And you need a refresher course in logic and common sense

Its one of the first things explained to VT students so they understand what they are trying to achieve. It is logic and common sense. Your uninformed.

[GlennR]

you need a refresher course in 101 VT

You think thats WC?

[anerlich]

Its one of the first things explained to VT students so they understand what they are trying to achieve. It is logic and common sense. Your uninformed.

It may have been the first thing explained to you, but it didn't seem to sink in.
Same as in spelling and grammar class ...

you're uninformed.

[mvbrown21]

Anyone know where this video is from or their lineage. Almost bare knuckle really, with a little flavor of their own. Starts off with basically ground fighting but be patient and you'll see some stuff there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKrAVNnVP-0



Also for all the guys who were curious what there was, at least in America, before all the MMA madness


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCjDw...el_video_title




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Matt

www.youtube.com/mvbrown25

[m1k3]

Anyone know where this video is from or their lineage. Almost bare knuckle really, with a little flavor of their own. Starts off with basically ground fighting but be patient and you'll see some stuff there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKrAVNnVP-0



Also for all the guys who were curious what there was, at least in America, before all the MMA madness


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCjDw...el_video_title




____________________

Matt

www.youtube.com/mvbrown25

Actually that first clip was horrible. Even though there was groundfighting it was very clear that none of them knew anything about grappling. The stand up was almost as bad. Run at your opponent with your fists flailing.

[k gledhill]

It may have been the first thing explained to you, but it didn't seem to sink in.
Same as in spelling and grammar class ...

you're uninformed.

You're correct, 'you're' uninformed, thanks for the spelling correction at least you can spell better than your understanding of VT


One of the first things you show a vt student is to maintain striking distances so they can deliver ko force in movement. Chi-sao furthers this training, as a striking drill etc...

[k gledhill]

You think thats WC?

you dont ? please explain why it wouldnt be ...then we can see your thinking.

[Graham H]

you dont ? please explain why it wouldnt be ...then we can see your thinking.

Oh don't encourage him Kev!! LOL

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[k gledhill]

Oh don't encourage him Kev!! LOL

G

Guys want to see tansao punches to make it VT or a pose....

[Frost]

That's the Vitor Belfort clip Frost and I were discussing.

Nothing whatever to do with Wing Chun, despite the wishes of (too) many.

Correct as usual and for the people saying what vitor did is Vt101 how come we cant see any clips of actual wing chun guys doing it i.e. you or your students or Philips guys

Its not hard, phils guys show his teachers system of wing chun in action, but how come we can’t see the principles you talk about in a fight which includes an actual wing chun guy? I mean if its so basic to wing chun would cant you show clips of it

[k gledhill]

Correct as usual and for the people saying what vitor did is Vt101 how come we cant see any clips of actual wing chun guys doing it i.e. you or your students or Philips guys

Its not hard, phils guys show his teachers system of wing chun in action, but how come we can’t see the principles you talk about in a fight which includes an actual wing chun guy? I mean if its so basic to wing chun would cant you show clips of it

I don't teach mma .......but ironically i get mma guys who do come to learn VT for street / bar fighting. I can show you clips of what I consider good VT.

[SavvySavage]

Correct as usual and for the people saying what vitor did is Vt101 how come we cant see any clips of actual wing chun guys doing it i.e. you or your students or Philips guys

Its not hard, phils guys show his teachers system of wing chun in action, but how come we can’t see the principles you talk about in a fight which includes an actual wing chun guy? I mean if its so basic to wing chun would cant you show clips of it

Alan Orr doesn't just do WC so I'm not sure if he's a good example of a WC fighter. He does mma because to compete in mma you have to mostly train mma. Luk Sao...not so much.

A WC fighter, to prove WC purely works in mma, should just be training WC right?

[k gledhill]

Alan Orr doesn't just do WC so I'm not sure if he's a good example of a WC fighter. He does mma because to compete in mma you have to mostly train mma. Luk Sao...not so much.

A WC fighter, to prove WC purely works in mma, should just be training WC right?

MMA by definition requires ground skills for submission options.
VT would require bjj etc...sprawling....its an arena for grapplers who can strike, kick. Gracie's set it up to highlight bjj as the grind game. The first fights had 20 minute guard stalemetes.