I agree, most sport combat guys hit as hard as they can and worry about the rest later.
Of course that is until they bust up their hand.
Which is still pretty rare, though it does happen.
IP just address that issue rather than ignores it.
The real issue is does IP give you some sort of "super punch" that gives you that extra edge.
Deep down that is THE point, isn't it?
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Well, to be honest, most IP people I know tend to use the open hand so...
That said, I know of at least on that did break his hand in a fight.
Of course Ip does NOT = unbreakable and there are many types of IP, just as there are many types of hand conditioning.
You know Tak Kubota right?
Prime example of hand conditoning in the JMA venue, that type I used to do in Kyokushin.
I can honestly say that the IP type is better, less damaging and more effective, BUT longer in the process.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
I'm so surprised you guys are actually discussing with this guy. There will never, and I mean NEVER, be a time when people like this will say anything remotely close to "Oh, I see. You're right. Thank you - I've learned something new and have a new perspective." unless it's complete sarcasm. These idiots are out to troll, and whatever you say will never be enough - they are out to say you're wrong about anything that does not measure up to their pre-established personal beliefs about any given topic.
I'm going through a similar battle over on MAP (martialartsplanet), where they're going on and on about nothing within TCM works - prove it, double-blind studies, mysticism yadda yadda bs. It's nothing but an effort in frustration.
Yes, "Northwind" is my internet alias used for years that has lots to do with my main style, as well as other lil cool things - it just works. Wanna know my name? Ask me
http://www.pathsatlanta.org
Asking for evidence is part of what makes a person able to think critically.
Of course there will be a time when a person will say you are right. Simply show some convincing evidence. Showing convincing evidence usually changes a logically thinking person's mind.
Not being able show evidence simply provides evidence that your argument is based on smoke and mirrors.
LMAO
Spoken like a true troll in a TCMA forum doing the science dance. My @$$ about the "of course there will be a time when a person will say you are right". If they even come close to seeing the fault of their view, they will simply vanish from the forum.
How bout you just take up any of the offers to get your "EVIDENCE" first-hand? Even then, you'd be getting up, dusting yourself off and saying something idiotic like "well, it's placebo" etc...
Yes, "Northwind" is my internet alias used for years that has lots to do with my main style, as well as other lil cool things - it just works. Wanna know my name? Ask me
http://www.pathsatlanta.org
Tak Kubota's hand is a foot.....
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
Been there, done that.
The fact is, I already know from experience people with IP training do not hit harder than a boxer or mma fighter, although they like to believe they do.
Rather than "offering to do demonstrations", the obvious and simple thing to do is for them to step into a mma or boxing gym and show themselves knocking people down.
This would be simple and easy, and much easier to do that trying to meet with annonymous people from the internet.
Of course, any thinking person can clearly see why they don't do this.
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john f springer did iron palm and got ground pounded by bullshido guys
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