Originally Posted by
Dark Chi
Hi Mr Duke
Never heard of Sei moon baat gwa from CLC (I've heard of San mun ken(hak ga)but that was dropped from the main core of PM.
Sei moon= 4 doors to you maybe
san mun = close door to me
somehow the translation is lost or evolved either way im not familiar.
Baat gwa(bat ga ken?)I think there is definate confusion here.
we have ma pu(horse stand/walk),tih pu(straight walk),gui pui tui(nine step push,sip bat mor(18 demons),mang fu chut lim(fierce tiger exits the forest) and umm mor(5 elements)
I believe the confusion lies that the 5 elements are infact lost no one ever achieved this,and this form was to be said by CLC as similar to what we know is Bak gua(not a form at all)
bat ga ken is the same a bak gua(bak gua is cantonese and bat ga ken is hak ga)
I dont know but yours seems to be the juk lim(formly of tong long not direct from PM) although I've not seen how you hold your elbows and fist. Only your strike.
sorry I cant go into lineages as I am bound even now.
thanks for reading