Il like the body paint especially the dew or waterdrops.
They look so real. Wonder how long and how the painter did it.
Genuine equals effective in a combative situation, yes?
Standing to me is primarily about proprioception, "creating a root" but what many fail to understand is that it must be tested in other forms of training and finally in non-compliant training with a partner.
So even in terms of TCMA its more of an adjunct rather than a base.
Non-compliant training is what MMA does well because it is after all a competitive pursuit.
The internal / external thing is primarily just classification and not about training.
Dave
yes, in the beginning of internal training there is standing post. at advanced stages you move on to squats.
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Let's face it, standing IS advanced for some people!
An excellent strategy that I recommend for most people! Especially drivers in front of me going the speed limit or slower in the fast lane, and anyone who doesn't agree with me 100% on all things and David Jamieson, but NOT David Ross, or bawang his #1 acolyte because that would be like God and his advertising agency killing themselves! The first couldn't happen and the second God wouldn't allow to happen!
Let's face it, standing IS advanced for some people!
Correct!!!
breathing in air is advanced for some people.
Originally posted by BawangOriginally posted by Bawangi had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.
Of course genuine TCMA equals effective in a combative situation, because that is what TCMAs were designed, trained and used for.
So, when some characters start calling important TCMA methodologies and concepts fantasy, then I know that they have never trained genuine TCMAs.
I have been taught that Zhan Zhuang training goes far beyond creating roots. Roots are the first "benefit" of the training, but like so many things related to the relatively profound TCMAs, many practitioners do not go beyond the first step, IMHO.
Not if there is more to it than mere roots training.
True, but IMHO, all MAs should sooner or later pursue non-compliant training, otherwise they are just fooling themselves.
Of course it is about classification for different overall approaches, but don't different approaches require different training methodologies?
For me, the power of internal martial arts training is in the cultivation of a calm, clear mind.
I haven't been in a fight for over 30 years, but I find usefulness in having a calm mind every day.
Take the other day for example ...
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Rick
There is a very clear difference between internal application and external application, if you don't think there is, then you are external person only thinking you have some internal.
If you have not done standing for years at a minimum, there is no way you no what internal is or could even begin to apply it.
So without the standing training, you are just external guys thinking there is no internal, or maybe hopping there is no internal or thinking your external training will develop internal too, it will not.
So saying what you think it is, just says you don`t know, because if you had it you would clearly know the difference!.
So how do you measure that?
Not fantasy, but not necessarily time effective for the returns gained if you look at the overall attribute development required of a combative discipline.
I disagree but hey it’s only my opinion and experience, “goes far beyond” what does that entail for you?
Again, I disagree. The training process is the same.
The base attributes of all combative disciplines can be reduced to courage, strength, speed and changeability. The process of developing those attributes can be different dependent on the strategies and tactics of the individual style and the experience of the practitioner.
My point is that standing practise is ubiquitous to TCMA. I’ve trained in both so called internal and external styles and they all do standing practise but its like all training methods - subject to the laws of diminishing returns beyond a maintenance component after the objectives of the training have been internalised.
Dave
What is the key to INTERNALLY lifting 300lbs of deadweight ( barbell for example) off the floor?
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Youknowwho and I are still waiting for someone to show us the "internal" way to perform a roundhouse.nu
Originally posted by BawangOriginally posted by Bawangi had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.