Originally Posted by
Taixuquan99
1) Discussing actual kung fu technique takes work.
2) LKFMDC left, and why should YKW do all that work by himself?
That's the truth. The discussion of actual technique has been nothing, everyone is debating this crap. 99% of which is guys who talk a lot about principles of kung fu, and only a tiny amount about techniques. You couldn't fill a pamphlet with the principles of any system, all the old kung fu manuals are about techniques based around principles, but about techniques, yet somehow kung fu is this nebulous practice that teaches general motions, not specific techniques.
A few months of technical discussion between a few people showed me to be right, but we've reverted to a useless paradigm where technical discussion of kung fu isn't happening, but ten year old debates whose only cure is technical discussion of kung fu, but no discussion.
Muay thai guys don't fight and then learn their system, they learn their system and when they're ready within the context of the system, they fight. Same with bjj, mma, kickboxing. Only people slagging on kung fu recommend otherwise, and some kung fu people listen, and of course, that doesn't go well, because if you don't train for the venue, you will be at a disadvantage.
The problem with pretty much all the kung fu fights online where the kung fu guy gets creamed, is the kung fu guy literally does nothing relevant to the fight, because they did not train to read another person pre-contact, post-contact, period. The solution isn't "enter the ring", the solution is train as if you are, then enter the ring if you so choose. The whole paradigm here now is the opposite, and it's useless. I don't care what a person's fight history is, if we're discussing kung fu, and they don't reference anything more than a principle as what they use from the system, that's not a system of kung fu, that's an idea kung fu gave you. That's what's being espoused here now, and it's effectively death to kung fu. Without more technical knowledge, there will never be more fighters coming from these systems.
Bleck.
And that goes for the suggestion that some people just slag on tcma, and that in fact all those people are merely conveying well formed arguments based solely around fantasy and never are first and foremost generalizing their judgment to all tma. Um, no.