What is qi?

[anerlich]

holding your breath is good for lifting weights? you're kidding right? increasing abdominal pressure?! LOL, ever heard of something called a hernia? What about an aneurysm? LOL. Enough said.

Your misconceptions here have already been refuted. Read Pavel Tsatsouline's books for detailed info.

I'm sorry that educational background threatened you, it was not my intent.

Threatened? ha ha ha.

Don't flatter yourself or your educational background. It doesn't seem to have transferred too well to other areas of knowledge.

[nasmedicine]

Your misconceptions here have already been refuted. Read Pavel Tsatsouline's books for detailed info.




Threatened? ha ha ha.

Don't flatter yourself or your educational background. It doesn't seem to have transferred too well to other areas of knowledge.

You are correct and I apologize for my remarks. For the record I spoke outside my scope of expertise (especially when it comes to proper body building and strength training, you can also lump all my comments on what I think Chi is as well). I will see if I can download a copy of the book you mentioned for my general knowledge.

[imperialtaichi]

You misunderstood my point to a ridiculous degree. Read it again and take yourself out of thee picture

If we mutually misunderstand each other continuosly, not much point in furthering the discussion. Not interested in turning this into a personal slinging match in cyberspace.

[anerlich]

You are correct and I apologize for my remarks. For the record I spoke outside my scope of expertise (especially when it comes to proper body building and strength training, you can also lump all my comments on what I think Chi is as well).

A gentlemanly response, and I would not want to imply my own statements were all pearls of researched wisdom either.

Truth be told, everyone on this forum makes assertions way outside their areas of expertise pretty regularly.

[nasmedicine]

A gentlemanly response, and I would not want to imply my own statements were all pearls of researched wisdom either.

Truth be told, everyone on this forum makes assertions way outside their areas of expertise pretty regularly.

Thank you and fair enough.

[Paddington]

Sorry to resurrect this well trodden debate/discussion.

The video of a talk by John Vervaeke posted by Robinhood, is very good and very close to the mark with respects to explaining Qi and the bodily mechanisms involved. Yes, it is quite esoteric and some will have to research the terminology and background knowledge that John assumes the listener has already established.

Of course, my praise for Vervaeke is a big IMO but he is supremely worth understanding and I can't help but feel that many posting in this thread just do not want to spend the time, to understand him.


I re-post the link to John's talk below. Many thanks to Robinhood for initially posting it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcp6J...eature=related

[nasmedicine]

Sorry to resurrect this well trodden debate/discussion.

The video of a talk by John Vervaeke posted by Robinhood, is very good and very close to the mark with respects to explaining Qi and the bodily mechanisms involved. Yes, it is quite esoteric and some will have to research the terminology and background knowledge that John assumes the listener has already established.

Of course, my praise for Vervaeke is a big IMO but he is supremely worth understanding and I can't help but feel that many posting in this thread just do not want to spend the time, to understand him.


I re-post the link to John's talk below. Many thanks to Robinhood for initially posting it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcp6J...eature=related

The link is not complete and therefore will not work. Is the clip you are referring to titled, "John Vervaeke - Chi Explained Without Magic"

[Paddington]

The link is not complete and therefore will not work. Is the clip you are referring to titled, "John Vervaeke - Chi Explained Without Magic"

Yes, sorry about that. I have edited my post with a working link, I hope.

[Robinhood]

This link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcp6J...eature=related

[Paddington]

This link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcp6J...eature=related

. Thanks for posting Robinhood. A quick Q for you, do you follow John and his colleagues more widely with respects to their work?

[Robinhood]

. Thanks for posting Robinghood. A quick Q for you, do you follow John and his colleagues more widely with respects to their work?

No, just thought it was interesting, I hadn't see any study's don't on chi before.



Cherrs

[anerlich]

Of course, my praise for Vervaeke is a big IMO but he is supremely worth understanding and I can't help but feel that many posting in this thread just do not want to spend the time, to understand him.

If it takes him an hour eighteen to explain his point, I can't help but feel such reluctance is hardly surprising, and the coherence of the explanation somewhat unlikely. I watched a five minute vid explaining the function of the aforementioned Higgs boson fairly well earlier, and I can't believe chi is sixteen times more complex than particle physics. If it is, none of you "seers of the light" will be able to do zip with it anyway.

Maybe when I have a bit more free time - right now I'm going to the gym to roll ... do something which will definitely help my ability progress ...

[Happy Tiger]

Yes.

The presentation of the above video by the doctor is not about Qi but new age believe. One needs to define qi as the energy which makes tcm accupuncture and herbal work. Instead of getting into all kind of magic force, guidance..Fung shui ....fortunte telling....ect .

That sound a lot like some one saying, " that presentation wasn't about Jesus Christ and our Lord God but new age magic like Buddhism, Ying Yangs and other magic mumbo jumbo. any description must be filtered first thru the shape allready assumed. Dangerous thinking IMHO

[Xian]

You are going for a supernatural explanation, or claiming science that we do not yet understand? Why?

I would say its my experience, If you want to call it science then it would be my personal one as I am a scientist in someway on my way.


Kind regards,
Xian

[Paddington]

If it takes him an hour eighteen to explain his point, I can't help but feel such reluctance is hardly surprising, and the coherence of the explanation somewhat unlikely. I watched a five minute vid explaining the function of the aforementioned Higgs boson fairly well earlier, and I can't believe chi is sixteen times more complex than particle physics. If it is, none of you "seers of the light" will be able to do zip with it anyway.

Maybe when I have a bit more free time - right now I'm going to the gym to roll ... do something which will definitely help my ability progress ...

It is an academic conference so one would expect the use of technical language and a certain level of depth. Most things in life, Qi included, just cannot, IMO at least, be explained and investigated in a few lines or as bullet points. I don't find your analogy with a video designed for lay consumption of the higgs, comparable to a lecture designed for those researching cognitive and neurological functions.