What could this guy do using his yang style to win?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Lets not argue about the definition of push and pull ok?
Pushing exerts force AWAY from you
Pulling exerts force TOWARDS you.

[-N-]

id still like to know how you can pull or push someone shooting so you borrow their forice when they are shooting like tito demoed in the clip i posted, you know the one where he shoots in and up and through the opponent??

In that case, the "borrowing" would only be against the horizontal component of the shoot.

Any downward force would be against the vertical component, and would be force against force.

So downward pulling against a proper shoot is not the cleanest technique if the intent is to use only borrowing.

[-N-]

Vectors. It's all about the vectors.

[-N-]

Just watched the video.

He could learn how to, you know, fight...

at all...

This.

[Frost]

So downward pulling against a proper shoot is not the cleanest technique if the intent is to use only borrowing.

you think, hence why we haven't see it that much even those John says its the easyiest thing to do against a shot

[Dragonzbane76]

why try to invent/reinvent a wheel? Sprawl has worked so far. (didn't watch vid) kinda jumped in the conversation halfway through.

[YouKnowWho]

why try to invent/reinvent a wheel? Sprawl has worked so far. (didn't watch vid) kinda jumped in the conversation halfway through.

Reinvent a wheel?

This picture was taken back in 1933 (79 years ago).

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3...ournament1.jpg

[SimonM]

And the guy in that shot's very lucky that he hasn't got his legs pulled out from underneath him. Just because a technique is old doesn't make it any good.

[bawang]

train bjj, call it ditangquan.

PROBLEM SOLVED

[Yum Cha]

In an MMA enviroment, that well get you "overhanded" in the next day.
Over extending like that will also motivate the opponent to "slip and take your back" as opposed to going for the shoot.

Talking about something that looks like a traditional college wrestler's stance?

[Yum Cha]

the Tai Chi guy could have learned to grab for a guillotine and fall back taking the guy into guard as he's going down, or learned how to underhook and rotate the attack to the side, roll the opponent and then drop into side control....

or even sprawl..?

And then there's the striking.

[Frost]

the Tai Chi guy could have learned to grab for a guillotine and fall back taking the guy into guard as he's going down, or learned how to underhook and rotate the attack to the side, roll the opponent and then drop into side control....

or even sprawl..?

And then there's the striking.

guillotine wouldn't have worked the guy passed straight to the side on every takedown and bypassed the guys legs nicely, underhook and rotate also probably wouldnt have worked, thats used on higher shots, this guy was coming in low and fast, sprawl would have been the way to...as well as actually learning how to fight lol

[MightyB]

I want to know how you think this guy could win the fight using his style against the white belt BJJ guy.

He could learn how to sprawl to avoid the takedown, and then pick up some basic boxing skills. That should be enough to beat a BJJ white belt.

[MightyB]

The BJJ white belt actually is the one who angers me... he seemed too hurried on the ground and failed to establish a dominant position before rushing into a couple of poorly executed arm bar attemps. He didn't even try for the Americana that was clearly there - he never went for full mount, which was there... and no relaxation or breath control at all on the ground. <slaps head>

He made this fight too hard on himself. Should've ended it with the first takedown!

[bawang]

an internal guy told me he invited a bjj guy to "demonstrate" some techniques, then suckered him and tore up his arm.


this is classic internal combat technique.