For those who considered to have received the whole system, can you simply explained , how your sifu have certified the link to the ancestors ?
My answer will come after
Regards
For those who considered to have received the whole system, can you simply explained , how your sifu have certified the link to the ancestors ?
My answer will come after
Regards
I'm a White Crane Guy, not Wing Chun. My link is to the founder .... not in all that I do but by the virtue of who I am with and in that she gave rise to the art form I pursue. Having said that I am not teaching the"original" as I simply believe that it no longer exists as the art would have underwent a natural progression over generations of practitioners adding sometimes overtly often subconsciously to the art.
Ron Goninan
China Fuzhou Zhenlan Crane Boxing Australia
White Crane Research Institute Inc
http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
A seeker of the way
- My teacher's teacher married to his teacher's daughter.
- My teacher married to his teacher's daughter.
- My teacher's daughter only liked girls. The tradition broke right there.
Moshe was talking about wing chun- not white crane or shuai chao.
Try not to hi jack the topic.
This is an interesting question. My sense is that there is a good bit of fantasy in most lineages. My instructor had some photos of his instructor who simply learned from his father, from his father, and so on. I don't have a sheep skin listing each person back to shaolin or anything.
Most importantly, I was also impressed by my instructors ability to fight and to teach others to fight. I could see that what was happening at the school was a legitimate fighting art that had been developed over multiple generations. It was the 80's and here it was that a school was drilling out of movement and trained all ranges of fighting (although, the grappling was admittedly weak).
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Sure-hands do the talking,,, but in a net forum there are various kinds of discussion.This thread was about Ng Chan at the beginning-Moshe's sigung. Moshe was asking how peop;e have conceptions about Ip Man's original wing chun.He was going to give his own views later. One can have their own opinions- doesn't hurt to listen first. IMO
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Hi Glenn-not so odd a question IMO--perhaps phrased in an unfamiliar way.
There are many effective ways to fight-each have their own dynamics and foundations,
It seems to me that Moshe was asking how those who think that they have fully developed understanding of wing chun specially Ip Man wing chun-came to that conclusion. Of course, I could be wrong.It's difficult in a chat forum to discuss conclusively-effective usage
The ball is really on Moshe's court. Chee has done a good job in translating Moshe's sifu's Chinese. There finally is beginning to develop a compendium of views of Ip Man's major students. e got a late start on Ng Chan.
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No, i get the question Joy, just not sure what he is trying to achieve. But hey, its a forum so lets chatHi Glenn-not so odd a question IMO--perhaps phrased in an unfamiliar way.
Ok, i guess my question in return would be how does anyone have the authority to confirm who's take on IM WC is complete or not/There are many effective ways to fight-each have their own dynamics and foundations,
It seems to me that Moshe was asking how those who think that they have fully developed understanding of wing chun specially Ip Man wing chun-came to that conclusion. Of course, I could be wrong.It's difficult in a chat forum to discuss conclusively-effective usage
I dont think Moshe is doing this to be the "real deal" but hasnt WC gone down this path below?
As Moshe has, what appears to be and interesting lineage of WC, id prefer more discussion and maybe some clips/photos showing the differences he discusses.
But ofcourse thats his choice
Would a website, highlighting the different lineages take on WC be greatThe ball is really on Moshe's court. Chee has done a good job in translating Moshe's sifu's Chinese. There finally is beginning to develop a compendium of views of Ip Man's major students. e got a late start on Ng Chan.