Hung I Hsiang, an internal master in Taiwan years ago, had his students wear gi's and belts. He was a well respected master. He said he wanted his art to grow like karate.
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Hung I Hsiang, an internal master in Taiwan years ago, had his students wear gi's and belts. He was a well respected master. He said he wanted his art to grow like karate.
Is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HObQVRqrrhQ
supposed to be a completely different form than this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2LrSzE6ZtY
KC ... I have plenty of friends ... but I also have a very busy life. When we become adults we don't have time to go hang out with friends. We spend most of our day working for our paycheck and then the remaining couple of hours with our family.
What is really sad is for an adult to cry that their friends have left them because they don't call them on the phone anymore.
themeecer actually shares a lot of the passion that Bruce Lee had about adopting techniques into your own way of 'expressing yourself.'
-shaolinarab
(Nicest thing ever said about me on these boards.)
And that is probably the truth. I can't disprove that nor am I trying to. Heck, based on what I know, I'm willing to concede that the probable origin of this version in SD is from DFW's book or video. I just think that just because we can't find examples on the internet or otherwise of a "100% LEGITIMATE" lineage that does this form doesn't mean it hasn't been taought elsewhere. If it came from Lau Bun's wife whose family were "nothern practitioners" it is certainly possible that it exists elsewhere and we just don't know about it.
Neither of us can prove a negative.
Thanks Lucas for the proper interpretation of my apparently bad english. I wasn't asking what was messed up about Jake's performance. It seems pretty clear that the universe of vastly superior martial artists on this forum has condemned his performance.
What I'd like to know, and what I haven't seen yet seen on these fora, is someone give a good explanation of why something that is good is good. People will say "good rooting," or "proper foundation," or "not karatefied." What I want to know is what about DFW's version properly shows the foundations of your system? What is he doing that is right? Isn't it more helpful to consider the right method than the wrong so long as one has an example of right?
Oh, also didn't mean to disappear fromt he conversation, which I agree is a good one applying the normal standard of conversation around here. I was at a lake house with no interwebs. It was actually quite nice.
I'm not asking you about Jake. I'm asking you what about DFW's version of the form represents well the foundations of your system? What does he do right? Why is it right? How does it show qualities that are valued in your system? What are those qualities?
Are you not answering my questions because you really aren't understanding me or are you not answering because you can't or won't? All of those options are fine as long as you're up front about it. Your continued insistence on answering an unasked question, however, is curious.
I think thats retarded HSK. You come on here and blast someone you dont know and when we ask for concrete examples of your massively impressive super duper real deal 5 animal you say no thanks?
Well WTF to you. You have added no value except to curse and lament and libel another person via a forum and provide no real data to assist others in their practice.
You come off like a spoiled child. Give us information to help, and your breakdown of Jakes form is not helpful at all, or stop complaining.
You come off very childish.
I am not a SD student nor can I tell you what a monkey beak is...I can surmise from the hand position, though that it is an easy way to refer to a backhand strike that monkeys make. Helps a student understand the positioning of the hand a bit. Would I refer to it that way? Nope.
Also I do not practice nor know the 5 animal form. But I would never treat others the way you have. I imagine your 5 animal looks like crap as out of shape as you are but you go ahead and keep judging.
Sharing knowledge is not a sin nor is giving a few pointers. I wouldnt want to learn the form from you at all. But body mechanics and spirit in forms is easy to understand if you make a few suggestions off of seen movements. no one asked you to give away the secret sauce...just a few pointers as to what was so horrible. And the response again was full of holier than though negativity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Doc-Fai
this says 1987
Kungfujunky
Thanks for the Info. Do you know if it (the Book of 5 Animals)
was ever published by DFW in Chinese?
OTD
That isn't what I asked for. I don't wanty secrets. Just point out the markers in the book and how you know jakes form came from the book with said markers. I'm not asking for secrets. I'm asking you to disect to pieces of material that have been released to the public and show the proof.
If you already did that, I don't see it. Show me. The hardest part of this should be creating screengrabs. Not asking to reveal secrets. Markers aren't secrets. I don't need to know the true form. I wanna see the similarities between the two public versions that prove Sin The got it from the book. Simple, no?