very well spoken,
this will be my last post on this thread,
a point of balance has been reached,
i felt that it needed to be brought out into the light and looked at,
maybe some conclusion drawn as you have so eloquently expressed,
i harbor no animosity toward mr.painter,and i wish him and all
martial arts practitioners to find what they are looking for in the arts,to find happiness and to be free from suffering
we are drawn spiritualy to the system most suited to us.
health and self defense are the basis for the enhancement of our
spirit,
i`m quite certain that mr.painter has helped many people through his teaching and i wish him the ability to do so for many years to come,

though we practice for many years when we make mistakes my sifu will without hesitation correct us,
we must all be able to eat the bitter to improve.
mr.painters removal of those pictures from his websight is a sign
that he is receptive to criticism and for that i commend him.

thank you for your insights,like the proverbial lotus rising from the mud.