Forms during the Jing Wu (Chin Woo) days?

[Tensei85]

Question: Which forms were added to the Mantis curriculum during the Jing Wu days as opposed to existing previously in the Mantis system? I know quite a few were added during such as:

Shi er lu tan tui
Gong li quan
Tui Jin ( a derivative of the Zhan Quan forms)
Da zhan quan
Jeet kuen
Shi si lu tan tui (sap sei lo tan toy) was said to have been created by Lo Guang Yu during the Jing Wu period.
Ba gua dao

Does anyone know of any others?
Thanks.

[Violent Designs]

Wasn't Huo Yuan Jia a Mizong Quan guy? So I would assume, Mizong forms.

[Tensei85]

Thats true as well but during the Jing Wu era the Jing Wu Men became a melting pot for martial arts and Huo Yuan Jia himself invited guests to combine there martial arts prowess and rid the sick men of asia title. So even after Huo Yuan Jia the Jing Wu continued his legacy and invited a lot of guest Martial Artist to share there knowledge including Praying Mantis, Eagle Claw, Taiji, Bagua and a huge amount of other stylist. So even today the family lineages that can trace there systems to the Jing Wu have a lot of the same forms in there systems. Especially the Jing Wu 10 basic routines.

[mawali]

The Jingwu forms were a new kind of public recreation introduction to the main arts of the day. The format was a result of modernization and because MA was losing its focus, the Jingwu curriculum was a way to allow for more 'private and personal' exposure to the real art.

Women, were, for the first time, made to feel part of the greater experience of participating in upholding National Treasures, hence the nationalistic view of Jingwu's mission statement!

[Paul T England]

Man Mo Ba Sim Gim (straight Sword) and Ng Fu Cheung (5 tiger Spear) are also Jing Mo forms.

What I would like to find out is how the classes were structured? Basics, Forms, Sparring, Weapons etc.....

Paul
www.moifa.co.uk

[GeneChing]

A Visit to Chin Wu Athletic Association Headquarters in Shanghai by Gregory Brundage

[ngokfei]

The Chin Woo was very organized and had a standardized curriculum in its programs. This was achieved mainly by Zhao Lian Ho who assembled the 10 sets from his own knowledge as well as imput from the 5 Primary teachers. ex: The partner set Toa Kuen/paired fist is a Qin Na/Kahm Na set done in roads, each teacher is said to have contributed a Row.

When you joined you learned the Chin woo 10 sets - "most of the time". Upon completion and testing you were then permitted to enroll in any of the other courses offered.

Each Style Course was like an introduction to that particular style and taught only a few sets: usually 2 hand forms and a weapon or 2. Alot of Chin Woo members jumped around through the years doing multiple styles without specializing.

Those individuals who wanted to specialize usually received instruction on the advanced material by becoming an asst-instructor at the Chin Woo. But they might still be required to pay additional $$ for private lessons with that instructor.

Still over time alot of individuals were able to circumvent this by trading forms and materials with other members outside of the Chin Woo Center - ex: some individuals I've read about knew Eagle Claw sets without ever actually being in the Eagle Claw Course.

[xiao yao]

take a look at the curriculums of any mainland lineages

here is my shifu's forms curriculum for taiji and meihua mantis http://www.zhouzhendong.com/curriculum.php

also here is a discussion on seven star from another forum http://www.mantisquarterly.com/forum...ead.php?t=1126

[YouKnowWho]

Huo Yuan Jia himself invited guests to combine there martial arts prowess and rid the sick men of asia title.

Did Huo Yuan Jia ever taught his Mizongyi to the Chin Woo system?