any punch where the arm is rotated along it's axis so the strike lands w/ the elbow pointed upwards...the thumb will be pointing downward.
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yep this is ow i was taught it, check the video out at about the 1.50 mark for pad work, we do it very similar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmsr_5V62eU
thats hardly a haymaker though, thats more akin to an ovehand strike/
and those are used all the time in MMA, im thinking HE MEANS a haymaker hitting with the thumb side of the fist coming down at 45 degrees which would put the elbow in the position he is talking about, but in my lineage we dont really use that we hit as in that clip
The technique in question is the sau choi in which many people end the technique with the thumb angled slightly downward. It is important to note however that contact with that strike is made at the highest arc of the strike and not the finished position. That would mean the fist is actually in the normal position and not with the thumb facing down.if you connect with your fist/forearm while the elbow is pointed more than 90 degrees up from the side,
The yum chop choi is a strike delivered with the thumb facing down. The arm should not be parallel to the ground however, but should be angled slightly downward.
as for these strikes being "bad" for your shoulder joint, I'm the one in the vid clip frost posted, and i can bee seen training all of the strikes mentioned against both targets that give and targets that have less give like heavey bags and jongs here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aytjXyZUb8Q
I have been training these strikes like this for over 10 years and have had zero shoulder problems. Those problems can usually be avoided with proper knowledge of the correct range and "sweet spot" of the strikes as well as proper shoulder maintainence such as additional strength and flexibility training for the shoulder.
When I was 18 I broke my hand and had to get pins put in it for it to heal properly. My ortho told me that not only would I not be able to regain full range of motion with my fingers but I would never be able to punch again. I ignored his advice to quit training and not only do I have full range of motion but I can punch with it with no problem. Maybe little old chinese dudes dont know everything but then either does your ortho
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Last edited by bawang; 01-21-2013 at 10:08 AM.
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me? powerlifting? how's that ironic?
anyway, if the thumb is not rotated down, then ok, not what i meant. and, i don't know wtf chop choi is really so...
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"
Last edited by bawang; 01-21-2013 at 03:33 PM.
Honorary African American
grandmaster instructor of Wombat Combat The Lost Art of Anal Destruction™®LLC .
Senior Business Director at TEAM ASSHAMMER consulting services ™®LLC
no, not really a powerlifter by intention.
"George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."
"If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"
"Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"
It's simpler than you think.
I could be completely wrong"