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    Oops

    HSK fell for that one too...

    Tweets in bad taste still rampant
    January, 17, 2013 6:23 AM ET
    By Chuck Mindenhall
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    Ronda RouseyAP Photo/The Canadian Press/Neil Davidson
    Ronda Rousey's outspoken ways got her in hot water Tuesday when she posted an insensitive tweet.

    For starters, Sandy Hook was not a hoax. I live in Sandy Hook, and the week's worth of funeral processions down Church Hill Road was not imagined. The grieving people here are not actors. The ambulances that raced by my house were not props. The kids that have been taken from this community are not coming back. Neither are the teachers.

    It'd be nice if Ronda Rousey knew better, but you wonder whether she does. Even after her manager Darin Harvey tried to clear things up in an interview with MMA Junkie.

    Rousey tweeted an "extremely interesting must watch video" (as she put it) on Tuesday about a government conspiracy in regard to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn. (a poorly constructed video presenting the whole thing as a staged massacre to boost anti-gun sentiment.) It takes imagination to conjure a wholesale tragedy like that. It takes suspicious minds to help perpetuate the notion, even if Rousey later said she was only trying to present open-mindedness.

    There's open-minded and then there's absent-minded.

    Perhaps Rousey had to be here. Perhaps she should be here. After all, there are plenty of people I could introduce her to who would love to learn that the whole thing was a work of creative fiction, so their family and friends could come home. If only that could really be the case. When my own daughter was on lockdown that morning, it seemed real enough for me.

    I am as opposed to high horses as the next guy, but tweets like these come off as senseless. And as a transcendent, historical figure in MMA whose actions take on more intensive scrutiny as she goes along, that's not something the UFC needs. Responsibility remains an issue for some of these fighters who've become overnight celebrities.

    Rousey has yet to understand her own sense of bigness. She's still dealing in silly.

    And right now she's a long way from being an ambassador of this sport. As a self-proclaimed "Diaz brother" -- a product of her better humor -- maybe she doesn't really need to be. She can be as ornery and candid and as opinionated as befits her job. Her mean streak works well in a sport than ends up in a cage.

    But she could stand to add something very important to her arsenal that right now is a glaring weakness -- and that is common sense. The UFC goes over social media protocol in its annual fighter summit, but it apparently still leaves people with vague notions of what passes as proper behavior.

    The UFC likes raw. I like raw. I like candid. I like Rousey. I want her to be great for the sport, and I believe she will be great for the sport.

    But there's a line of decency. It's not in good taste to post a must-see video that the people all around here -- shattered, bereft and traumatized -- are in on a conspiratorial work. That the unthinkable thing that happened to them didn't happen to them at all.

    And that's certainly not the kind of response you want from your superstars. While many athletes are using their status to help, Rousey chose to exacerbate the grief. What is the proper response? There isn't one, but you can pick up cues from the professionals in other sports, where players came at it from a place of empathy rather than paranoia.

    New York Giants receiver Victor Cruz visited the grieving family of Jack Pinto, one of the first-graders who died on Dec. 14. He was a Giants fan. The Bridgeport Sound Tigers AHL hockey team wore jerseys for a home game with the names of the 20 young victims on their backs. Various NFL teams wore decals. Virginia Tech wore helmets memorializing the tragedy. Landon Donovan and other soccer stars visited and held a clinic here in Newtown. The Providence basketball team wore uniforms of green and white, the Sandy Hook colors, with the name of the village across their chests.

    These are ways to pay respects. Even Pat Barry, who knocked out Shane Del Rosario a day after the tragedy, emotionally paid respects to the families.

    Was Barry "blindly accepting what he was told," (as Rousey later tweeted) or being a human being? And if you don't want to pay respects, don't say anything at all. What if one of these kids was a fan of Rousey's? What if his or her parents were?

    Maybe Rousey came to realize something along these lines, and that's why she deleted the tweet and apologized. Or maybe it was the backlash alone that did it, and she just forgave herself on the spot with an "oops, my bad!" Who knows. But she didn't -- and likely doesn't -- fear the consequences.

    And that's a little bit maddening. The UFC doesn't exactly reprimand its professionals for actions such as these. Yes, the UFC cut Miguel Torres for his "rape" tweet, but it seems like window dressing when he ends up on the roster again so quickly thereafter. Forrest Griffin, who made a rape joke of his own, wasn't given much of a slap on the wrist.

    More than likely, Rousey won't be either.

    She's the first female world champion in the UFC and is about to become the first woman to defend that title in a UFC main event. She's the "big thing" in MMA right now. It's a terrible time for her to dim her own star.

    She made a mistake, and mistakes are forgivable. In an ideal world, you’d hope somebody within the company might want to make sure she understands the nature of her mistake.

    Then again, in an ideal world, the Sandy Hook massacre would have never happened to begin with. But the truth is, it did.
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    That is probably the crowd she is hanging around with and it could be bad for her career. Shejust needs t fight, win and enjoy her wins.

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    Never heard of her until this thread. She's hot
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    She's doing one of my favorite throws!

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    About her opponent...

    As you all weren't mature enough to discuss Gay MMA without getting the thread locked down, this will have to sit here.

    Liz Carmouche, professional mixed martial artist, and openly gay (video interview)
    2/1/2013 7:00am by John Aravosis 2 Comments

    I got a chance to sit down yesterday via Skype with Liz Carmouche, 28, a professional mixed martial arts fighter who is openly-gay, and will be competing in the first-ever, women’s UFC title fight against Ronda Rousey on February 23, 2013 on Pay-Per-View (UFC 157: Rousey vs Camouche).

    I talked to Liz about being openly-gay and a woman in professional sports, about her nearly six years in the US Marines, and about growing up lesbian.


    Liz Carmouche, professional mixed martial artist.

    MMA is basically a mix of kickboxing, boxing, martial arts, and jiu jitsu. The thing is, up until now, the premiere MMA organization, the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), has only permitted male mixed martial arts fighters. That’s why the upcoming match between Liz and Ronda Rousey is such a big deal. The hope is that the UFC will see merit in women MMA matches, and continue the fights beyond this upcoming one.

    Liz is a joy to interview. She’s just so much fun, energetic, smart, thoughtful, and that smile – she has a never-ending smile. If both of us weren’t gay, I’d be in love. Seriously though, she’s quite impressive, and not at all like her scary-faced tough-gal publicity photos. She’s a really smart, interesting woman. I hope she keeps talking about what it’s like to be gay in professional sports, because I think she could really make a difference.

    Liz has no problem talking about being gay, and in fact sees it as a bit of a selling point for her career in MMA. Liz’s fans, many of whom are lesbians, but certainly not all, even have a nickname for themselves that Liz laughs about: Lizbos.


    Liz Carmouche and her signature smile.

    At one point I asked Liz if it made sense to keep male MMA and female MMA competitions separate. She said it did make sense, but she could still beat the guys because she’s so strong. Her extraordinary strength earned her the nickname “Gorilla.” Though it’s spelled: “Girlrilla.”

    The interview is around 17 minutes long, so watch at your leisure. It’s fun.
    Follow the link above for the vid.
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    You know how much I care about a fighters sexual orientation?
    ZERO.
    Know how much I care about a fighters view on sex?
    ZERO.
    Know how much I care about a fighters view on ANYTHING outside their chosen profession ( fighting)?
    ZERO.

    Now all we need is for fighters to KNOW that.
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    It's color commentary

    If MMA intends to become an accepted professional sport by pop culture along the lines of Football or Baseball, every athlete becomes a celebrity. Pro sports don't exist in a vacuum. Quite the opposite, they can be - and should be - a snapshot of the times. Just look at the Chris Culliver debacle with the Superbowl. You may not care, s_r, but for pro sports to mean anything at all, they must stay relevant to pop culture topics. I actually commend Carmouche and UFC for coming out about this (like Culliver should have been, that's me repping SF for ya.) If anything, my main criticism of the MMA community on the whole is that they exist in a vacuum. They've literally caged themselves in by their own macho stereotypes. UFC is trying to shift that, not only with this fight, but with things like Here Comes the Boom. It's a smart move because it gives the sport more growth opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    If MMA intends to become an accepted professional sport by pop culture along the lines of Football or Baseball, every athlete becomes a celebrity. Pro sports don't exist in a vacuum. Quite the opposite, they can be - and should be - a snapshot of the times. Just look at the Chris Culliver debacle with the Superbowl. You may not care, s_r, but for pro sports to mean anything at all, they must stay relevant to pop culture topics. I actually commend Carmouche and UFC for coming out about this (like Culliver should have been, that's me repping SF for ya.) If anything, my main criticism of the MMA community on the whole is that they exist in a vacuum. They've literally caged themselves in by their own macho stereotypes. UFC is trying to shift that, not only with this fight, but with things like Here Comes the Boom. It's a smart move because it gives the sport more growth opportunity.
    Honestly, I don't care about any athelets opinion on anything outside their sport.
    I don't care about a doctors opinion on aircraft mechanics.
    I don't care about an engineers opinion on planters warts.
    I don't care about a porn stars view on global climate change.
    I don't care about an African bushman's view on North Korean heritage issues.

    Being some sort of expert on ONE thing gives you NO credentials to comment on something totally unrelated.

    Seriously, if i hear one more story about the sexual orientation of someone that just happens to be famous or was famous at one point int time, I think I'll Dim Mak the first ****sexual I see !!
    Or Heterosexual !!!
    Not that there's anything wrong with it !!
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    What!?

    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    I don't care about a porn stars view on global climate change.
    Don't be absurd. Nothing could possibly be more important.
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    I think it's great she came out and all that. I have no issue with that whatsoever. My issue is with the maturity of a mostly male audience. If it were men it would be different. Many male jerks have no issue with gay women yet hate on gay men.

    Let's not forget that many people think it's a homoerotic sport as it is.

    This will be a story worth newslines when somebody like nick diaz agrees to fight an openly gay male. I wanna see a big name come out like Jon Jones, that would really piss some folks off.

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    Let's not forget that many people think it's a homoerotic sport as it is.
    My boxer buddies call it MMGay.

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    HBD Ronda!

    She turns 26 today!

    Meanwhile...

    Has Cris Cyborg Made an Offer that Ronda Rousey and UFC President Dana White Can't Refuse?

    Will she or won’t she?

    Can the women’s fight everyone most wants to see ever come to fruition?

    Is there any way to make the Ronda Rousey vs. Cris Cyborg Santos fight happen?

    Cyborg says there is a way, but that UFC president Dana White is just protecting Rousey, trying to make the fight happen with Cyborg going into it handicapped.

    “I am not afraid of Ronda Rousey,” Cyborg posted recently via Twitter. “I will fight her anywhere anytime for free.

    “Everyone knows I barely make 145 (pounds), but I am willing to sacrifice and meet her halfway at 140.”

    White has said over and over again that the UFC instituted a 135-pound women’s division and installed Rousey as the division’s first champion; period. They are not ready to add any other women’s weight classes anytime soon.

    “Cyborg either wants to come in and fight for the title and get a big payday and fight the champion or she doesn't,” said White.

    Cyborg believes that White is holding his stance because he wants his new champion to have an unfair advantage.

    “I can't believe Dana White says I want nothing to do with Ronda Rousey,” she posted.

    “What he wants me to do is fight Rhonda with both my hands tied behind my back or comatose, so that she can have a chance, which is what making me fight at 135 is.”

    The former Strikeforce featherweight champion, however, says that she is willing to handicap herself, partially, by dropping partway down to make the fight happen.

    “To finally shut everyone up, I will fight Rhonda with one hand tied behind my back at 140 pounds and still kick her ass and prove that I'm the real champ not her,” she declared.

    “And let the winner take all. Come on Ronda Rousey; step up, *****!”

    Brazen words, for sure, but not completely out of the realm of possibility. White appears to be warming to the idea that the fight could happen… even if not on his demand of it being at 135 pounds.

    Would he really consider going outside of his only women’s division to put the fight together?

    “If that's what (Cyborg) is willing to do, is go to 140, let Rhonda defend her title a few times and see if Rhonda wants to go to 140,” White told MMAWeekly.com on Thursday.

    “If I know Rhonda, she probably would anyway. If (Cyborg) wants to fight for a title, she's gotta go to 135 pounds. The fight at 140 would be a fan fight because everybody wants to see it, but it's not one of those fights that makes sense.”

    It may not make sense, but White has stated time and again – and he reiterated this on Thursday – he is “in the business of making fights that the fans want to see.”

    So if the fans make it clear that they want to see Rhonda Rousey vs. Cris Cyborg, and Rousey agrees, it appears that the fight could eventually take place… even at a catchweight.
    She should take her up on the one-hand-tied-behind-back offer.
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    Cyborg is a real piece of work. "I'm so awesome you should give me a belt for a division I can't make weight for" WTF right?

    It doesn't take a genius to understand why he chose 135 as his initial platform. It also makes sense that she should defend her title a few times before engaging in a catch weight superfight. Don't get me wrong, it would be great to see, but come on... Cyborg gives herself way too much credit. And let's not forget why she has fallen out of favour. She's a cheater, str8 up.

    If it was up to me PED's would end in lifetime bans. Use em once, gone. Period. Real PED's, not banned substances. I don't think Nick Diaz should have had such a great win taken away cause he smoked some weed. Saying he had an unfair advantage is ridiculous. IMO, that was no diff than if he got caught shoplifting. Had nada to do with MMA.

    But Cyborg?If I ruled the world she would be blackballed.

    I'm not even sure she's 51% woman at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Don't be absurd. Nothing could possibly be more important.
    I know... right?

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    This is too funny.

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