We have different understanding about "ankle pick". If you use it to take your opponent down, it will work better when he has weight on that leg. If you just want to get his leg, the less weight that he has, the easier for you to pick up that leg. This is why when you apply ankle pick, if you push his shoulder, his foot will come into your hand.
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Old TCMA saying said, "If you make a move, your opponent will make a move too". Since I only use my right arm to jam my opponent's right arm, his free left arm can do a lot of thing. There will be no argument on that.
Again, in both cases, his left hand has to be able to reach to my back or my right elbow. Since he is in a side stance, he has to turn into his left and move his left leg in order to reach me.
Of course I can move in through an angle that's futher away from his back left hand. That's too conservative IMO. I want to move in such an angle that not only I can attack his leading leg, I can also set up to attack his back leg as well. In order to enter through his "front door", I have to take certain risk to deal with his left arm and spin with him if needed.
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I have different opinion on this. The risk of those throws are when you spin, if your opponent spins with you, he can pull and drag you down to the ground.
This is why an experienced wrestler will modify his body spin into a "90 angle cut in angle". You won't change you angle until you can collapse your opponent's body structure.
All those 3 throws has "body spin". It requires your back to touch your opponent's chest. The "shin bite" has no body spin at all. It only require your chest to face your opponent's chest.
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That's a good way to set up shin bite. A low roundhouse kick to the inside of your opponent's upper leg, if your opponent resists and not pulling that leg back (here we are talking about a fully resist opponent who likes to use force against force and refuse to step back), you then slide your leg down along his leg and then bite onto his ankle. At the same time, a hook punch at your opponent's face will get you that "leading arm jam upper arm" position.
The main purpose of shin bite is to force your opponent to shift weight from his leading leg to his back leg. You then take advantage on it. The most common combos are:
- shin bite, reverse shin bite,
- shin bite, inner hook,
- shin bite, outer hook,
- shin bite, twist and spring,
- shin bite, leg lift,
- shin bite, leg twist,
- ...
If you and your opponent has different sides forward, you can even jump in with a head lock (need some set up), bite your shin bone onto your opponent's "upper leg", you then lift your back leg to put all your weight on his body. Depending on how your opponent will react, you then respond to it accordingly. It's an excellent "door open" move.
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I just can't allow people to trash TCMA without doing anything. Chinese sage Meng Zi once said, "I don't like to argue". When his students asked why he did anyway. He said, "Sometime I was forced to and I just didn't have choice". When he tried to make that point, he was arguing with his student who asked that question right at that moment.
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Even Meng Zi failed to changes his contemporary world. Even Confusius said, "When nobody believe in me, I'll take a raffle and float on the ocean." We just can't expect ourselves to be able to change those none TCMA guy's mind.
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In my bjj academy we where working a takedown off of the shin bite tech that youknowho posted. Almost the same way he posted it our set up was off a failed uchi mata. The tech works.
To use shin bite to set up "leg lift (uchi mata)" or to use "leg lift (uchi mata)" to set up shin bite both apply the same strategy, "Attack one leg to force your opponent to have the whole body weight on the other leg, you then attack the other leg". Those "principle" should be universal without style boundary. The shin bite is just one of many ways to attack one leg.
Here is another example (double leg lift) that apply the same principle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EsHo...ature=youtu.be
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John, they will never get it, their art is a sport to entertain for fun and a leather snap on belt and bragging rights not for real life or death,
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This clip is a valid technique has completely different principles than the unworkable one that you showed (which is why it works).
But feel free to post a clip of you doing what these guys in this clip are doing which is going full force against resisting opponents (which is another reason their technique works and yours doesn't).