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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is why to use your hand to control your opponent's arm is important.
    Of course! Not sure what I was thinking.

    I'll try checking above the knee a bit more often and see how it feels.

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    YKW,
    interesting I was gooing to mention countering that throw, either by bending and sniming or wraping he foot around the opponent who is attacking's leg. do you find this to work. I have had success only when I know the throw is coming or have a change to wrap. otherside bending the knee forces the energy downward and maint tians your balance
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    YKW,
    interesting I was gooing to mention countering that throw, either by bending and sniming or wraping he foot around the opponent who is attacking's leg. do you find this to work. I have had success only when I know the throw is coming or have a change to wrap. otherside bending the knee forces the energy downward and maint tians your balance
    If your opponent's under hook can off balance your body structure, your counter won't be effective. The reason is simple. Your opponent is at a dominate position. His under hook can lift oneside of your body off the ground. When your opponent tried to under hook you, if you use over hook on him, that will apply pressure on his left elbow joint. If you extend your right leg out to block both of his leg, you can turn the situation around.

    IMO, his "under hook" is the "main" part of his attack. His leg is only the "minor" part of his attack. He can even use hip throw without using his left leg at that moment. If you can take care of his under hook, you have just reverse your defense into your offense.
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    Just found some nice clips from another forum.

    1. Shoulder strike, body spin.



    2. Block both legs, push upper body.



    3. Catch kicking leg, sweep standing leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenDaHai View Post
    I'll try checking above the knee a bit more often and see how it feels.
    If your opponent has left side forward, you can use your right leg to jam on his left upper leg with yout right foot stick on the back of his left upper leg. If your can use both of your arms to control his upper body, you can lift your standing left leg and put all your body weight on top of your opponent's left upper leg. If you just suddently jump on top of your opponent like this. It can create a shock feeling for your opponent if he doesn't know what has just happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Just found some nice clips from another forum.

    1. Shoulder strike, body spin.



    2. Block both legs, push upper body.



    3. Catch kicking leg, sweep standing leg.

    Nice classical moves.

    Though I'm guessing these guys are not from TCMA.

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    once people understand that TCMA influences everything other art on the planet then and only then will then will they stop putting lables on and compatmentalizing fighting
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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Nice classical moves.

    Though I'm guessing these guys are not from TCMA.
    IMO, the principles should not have any "style boundary". If a Taiji guy jumps in the air and throw a "superman punch". He may not follow the Taiji principle. He follows the general principle - whatever it may take to land your fist on your opponent's face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthDragon View Post
    once people understand that TCMA influences everything other art on the planet then and only then will then will they stop putting lables on and compatmentalizing fighting
    If your opponent's

    - both legs are close to you, you take both of his legs.
    - one leg is close to you, you take that leg first. You then take the other leg afterward.

    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    You, sir, have obviously never enjoyed the delights of dating a sword hottie. It would change your life.
    Yes, and here are some interesting stats on men wrestlers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Yes, and here are some interesting stats on men wrestlers
    http://www.chacha.com/question/what-...stlers-are-gay
    "There's nothing gay about it! We're all martial artists here. Put your face in his junk!"

    Heard today from a BJJ coach, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    "There's nothing gay about it! We're all martial artists here. Put your face in his junk!"

    Heard today from a BJJ coach, lol.
    I did not read the research, but the title was high school wrestling.

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    I actually thought it was a joke...I didn't read any research either.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Tai Chi loves that first one.

    Praying Mantis has the 2nd and 3rd one all the time.

    3rd one with the catch and kick/sweep is in one of our beginner exercises, 14 Routes Tan Tui.

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    Footwork on that first one is present in Praying Mantis.

    We specifically train it as a "din bo" switch-up. It's documented in several forms.

    That's how it looks in application. Though we tend to do the switch-up more explosively to really blitz through the other guy when in close range.

    Technique is specifically for breaking inertia to generate force at close range.

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