His internal chow gar skillz at work.kung fu weirdo from Columbia with no apparent skills, maybe it's hardwork
His internal chow gar skillz at work.kung fu weirdo from Columbia with no apparent skills, maybe it's hardwork
Originally posted by BawangOriginally posted by Bawangi had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.
This is why you (general YOU) just can't stop training all the way through your old age. It's terrible that when you are 80 years old, a 20 years old knocks on your door and beat you up. If you let youself to be fat like the guy in that clip, you deserve to get beaten up.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 05-10-2013 at 10:32 PM.
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Less opinion -> less argument
No opinion -> no argument
So I'm probably totally missing the point of this thread, but could someone please explain the difference between "internal and external"?
Bang, you've said something a couple of times about it coming from the boxer rebellion and its total bs ( sorry if I misquote you, I don't want to put words in your mouth) but I would really like your imput.
And Gene you said to check out your book which I did but (I bow my head in shame) have not finished the book (crap tone of info for an uneducated, infant of a wish he could even call himself a martial artist). Is there a particular chapter I should be looking at.
I hope I don't get to off topic here, but to me internal KF (or MA what have you) is having such an intimate knowledge of the inter workings of your own body that you can command it to do psychotic things within the confines of physics. Obviously I'm not talking about stupid flying bs but I think you get my point. I also understand that there is a ridiculous amount of training involved get to that point (I.e. mastering a 2 in punch).
Am I wayyyy of the mark?
My leg being bionic is a reminder that arogance does not come without a price.
"Keep your skills quiet until it is absolutely necessary to reveal them. And when that time comes, be a divine defender of Buddha." -Gene Ching-... -and "slap them silly."
shaolin kung fu oral teaching says "a man who trains inner power looks soft like cotton, but can instantly become hard as iron."
shaolin boxing sutra says "a man who looks like he doesnt train boxing, looking like a farmer or teenager, can make his muscles instantly become hard as iron, this is the secret of the killer."
manchu prince duan was a big head in boxer rebellion. tai chi founder yang luchan was part of his retinue.
Last edited by bawang; 05-15-2013 at 08:58 AM.
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Are you saying that if you only have offensive skills you will become fat?
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
Gonna go out on a limb and say that the fat dude maybe says he's this or that, but it is more than obvious that he is none of the above.
I seriously doubt there is any kung fu training in his background of any merit.
Even two or three years of serious training will show in someone.
That guy merely looks like a fat dude getting beat up by a guy half his age and 1/3 his body fat.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 05-15-2013 at 01:48 PM.
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Less opinion -> less argument
No opinion -> no argument
yup.
Threw two little jabs and took a ritual ass kicking from someone he knew he couldn't beat, and only hoped he wouldn't be beaten too badly.
I think of internal energy as power created by core muscles, mental focus and breathing in a coordinated manner and applying it through your extremities. The more control and coordination and timing you have, the less brute force you need to apply from your arms and legs. Thus, you use less energy to accomplish the same results, or you have more energy on demand. Relaxed mental focus is also part of it, to my mind.
Bionic Leg - How does the Psychotic part fit in? In believing you can generate magic chi balls of fire?
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For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
I think of internal energy as power created by core muscles, mental focus and breathing in a coordinated manner and applying it through your extremities. The more control and coordination and timing you have, the less brute force you need to apply from your arms and legs. Thus, you use less energy to accomplish the same results, or you have more energy on demand. Relaxed mental focus is also part of it, to my mind.
Bionic Leg - How does the Psychotic part fit in? In believing you can generate magic chi balls of fire?[/QUOTE]
Thanks man, I think you acctually helped me a little in my search for an answer.
When it comes to using the tearm "phychotic" I might of used the tearm wrong do describe some of the techniques I've seen in my travles (I was a little drunk when I posted that last night ). But I'm refering to things like Iron Shirt, (spear demo) Iron Crotch, hell even the two inch punch (yeah yeah I know it is alittle bit of a pop culture cliche but I am still facinated with it).
I also get that techniques that would fall under the Iron Body catagory do require years of body conditioning.
As I'm typing this the wheels are spinning faster than a hamster in a wheel on speed.
So are you saying that internal is more about breath and absoulute relaxation of mind and body?
My leg being bionic is a reminder that arogance does not come without a price.
"Keep your skills quiet until it is absolutely necessary to reveal them. And when that time comes, be a divine defender of Buddha." -Gene Ching-... -and "slap them silly."
I thought the Grandmaster Wang Xiang-Zhai (1885-1963) Interview thread would generate more discussion, but I did make the mistake of putting it on the internal and not the general forum.
Anyway - it seems he liked two things, internal cultivation and fisticuffs and pretty much eliminated all else from his practice. His interview was pretty scathing about his contemporaries. It sounds a lot like the forum talk as of late and it was written quite some time ago. anyway...
My take on it was that he didn't like the classifications of internal or external either. He seemed to describe the major difference in terms of the ideal approach to training. External was more of "if he does this, then you do that" style of training for newbies, and Internal was more spontaneous with spontaneous reaction being the ideal for both.
Again my take from the interview, Fighting was supposed to be the first goal.