Stick drilling vs stick fighting: is there a connection?

[bawang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0h9ncCl9Q

[Kellen Bassette]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0h9ncCl9Q

My money is on the one with the machine gun.

Not to cross threads, but I see the ritual of forms here as well.

Lastly, did Gene sell them their head gear?

[Kymus]

D@mn those dudes hit hard!

I think it was Burton Richardson that went to somewhere in Africa and learned their stick fighting art. It was in one of his youtube videos.

[SoCo KungFu]

There's a couple places I could think of where I might want some more of that armor, if I were one of them. Just my observation.

[Kymus]

Unless I wasn't paying enough attention, it seems like they don't block. They mostly just try to evade or get the stronger hit in. Those dudes can sure take a beating though..

[Kellen Bassette]

Unless I wasn't paying enough attention, it seems like they don't block. They mostly just try to evade or get the stronger hit in. Those dudes can sure take a beating though..

I noticed one man using the stick horizontally to trap his opponents stick...and yeah...I'd want a cup on...

[-N-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0h9ncCl9Q

Looks a little like Praying Mantis 6 Harmonies Staff.

[lance]

1)This first video is drilling. It looks very nice but eventually you can see the patterns they are making over and over again during each different drill.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wYYIn...%3DwYYIn6OeBdw

2)This is a stick fighting tournament. When I look at the fights I can't see a connection between the drilling from the first video in relation with the fighting. They seem to just be whacking each other at weird angles while fighting.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQ_w67yqz8

What's the point of the first video? Wouldn't it be more efficient to just practice whacking each other fast and at weird angles and evading the other persons attack? The first video seems like a waste. Where am I going wrong?

SavvySavage , subitai is right about the videos you provided on your topic post , to me it really goes both ways . Ofcoarse the idea is to whack the opponent to disarm the opponent right ? But the opponent going be doing the samething as you so its' a challenge . So experiencing stick fighting is how you can figure out , how to battle your opponent . You see we can all get 2 - sticks and attack the opponent with both sticks right ? Your opponent going be defending himself against you and you going be doing the samething as your opponent so that ' s where the challenge is , when you experience stick fighting then , you ' ll know how to defeat your opponent .


Lance

[SavvySavage]

SavvySavage , subitai is right about the videos you provided on your topic post , to me it really goes both ways . Ofcoarse the idea is to whack the opponent to disarm the opponent right ? But the opponent going be doing the samething as you so its' a challenge . So experiencing stick fighting is how you can figure out , how to battle your opponent . You see we can all get 2 - sticks and attack the opponent with both sticks right ? Your opponent going be defending himself against you and you going be doing the samething as your opponent so that ' s where the challenge is , when you experience stick fighting then , you ' ll know how to defeat your opponent .


Lance

So learn to attack first, learn to attack fast....and skip the drills in the first video I posted?

[mawali]

1)This first video is drilling. It looks very nice but eventually you can see the patterns they are making over and over again during each different drill.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wYYIn...%3DwYYIn6OeBdw

2)This is a stick fighting tournament. When I look at the fights I can't see a connection between the drilling from the first video in relation with the fighting. They seem to just be whacking each other at weird angles while fighting.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQ_w67yqz8

What's the point of the first video? Wouldn't it be more efficient to just practice whacking each other fast and at weird angles and evading the other persons attack? The first video seems like a waste. Where am I going wrong?

Drilling is usually a first step in any sport, where you do the individual components then over time actually test the level of skill against a similar opponent. I think that a lot of people confuse CMA ritual with other ritual types and this confuses people. Just like the Mongol or Uzbeks who, as part of their heritage do the various horseback "tricks", which ere actually part of the horde tactics since today the horde is no more. A past tradition relegated to what we see in NatGeo or some anthropological film. Even buskazi (polo) as game, shows skill still retained as part of competition and friendly sportsmanship.

[YouKnowWho]

Your training can start from

1. the root (drills) and go to the leaves (fighting).
2. both the root and the leaves at the same time.
3. the leaves and go to the root.

Since method 2 only takes 1/2 as much time as the other 2 methods, it's better method IMO.

[bawang]

Unless I wasn't paying enough attention, it seems like they don't block. They mostly just try to evade or get the stronger hit in. Those dudes can sure take a beating though..

ur not paying enough attention.

[Kymus]

ur not paying enough attention.

Thanks for that clarification, Bawang!