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    Quote Originally Posted by RenDaHai View Post
    Where is the edge of a thing? Under scrutiny all things lose their outline, even the fundamental particles of nature. Quite so. If I am to analyse the technique across all styles of Kung Fu, from Wudang to Shaolin to E'Mei to Wutai, I will find the vast majority of the techniques identical. Abstract from form to application and many MA of the world have largely identical techniques.

    There is a lot of overlap.

    And sometimes it is useful to think in this way.

    But sometimes we have to impose a border to help us contemplate. In this case, the border is imposed by a map of Song Mountain and the Kung Fu within.
    - the neighboring village train generic style hongquan and changquan.

    -shaolin documents admit to learning generic long fist from outside during 1500s

    - shaolin people after 1986 were known to travel around china "buying" forms and manuals.

    - modern songshan shaolin system is missing the fundamental beginner forms: four gates, 8 hits, 13, 36, etc.

    -traditional jibengong missing (5 elements) instead taught using modern wushu methods (mabu, gongbu, etc)

    - staff forms from the well known 500 year old shaolin staff manual is nowhere found in shaolin temple.

    -famous treasured staff technique from general yu not found

    - shaolin musket tradition missing

    -archery tradition missing

    -cavalry tradition missing

    - wagon (siege) tradition missing

    - formation and squad tactics tradition missing

    -traditional sparring equipment missing

    -republic era modernization tradition missing (bolt action rifles)
    Last edited by bawang; 06-10-2013 at 05:18 PM.

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