pulling apart the opponents guard is different from pulling him towards you. you are begging to be taken down. in longfist this is called "tiger hug-bull crushes man" 虎抱-卧牛抢背
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Gt_M16lM&t=216
pulling apart the opponents guard is different from pulling him towards you. you are begging to be taken down. in longfist this is called "tiger hug-bull crushes man" 虎抱-卧牛抢背
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Gt_M16lM&t=216
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Greetings,
YKW:
I think it would be nice if you would let us know when you are talking sport/drill or serious martial combatives in your initial posts. It creates a lot of confusion for some people.
mickey
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Since the sport will always have gloves. This strategy won't work well for the sport. So I assume I'm talking about "combat". When you punch and your opponent blocks your punch, you will have 2 options:
- Pull your hand back and try to punch again.
- Pull your opponent's blocking arm and take advantage on it (if you know how to).
When your opponent punches at you, you can block his punch. You then change your blocking into 采手(Cai Shou) and pull his arm back. "Not come back empty-handed after punch" is just more aggressive approach that you initial the punch instead. The concept is the same as 采手(Cai Shou).
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an ancient technique to overcome retarded pattycake hand grabbing is the maneuver called "jab-cross". legend says it came from boddhidarma after he turned his curly indian pubes into tea leaves.
jab combine with cross, under heaven no enemy. cross combine with jab, even iron general will fall. ponder upon this deeply, my son.
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The jab and cross will still function the same whether you pull something back or not.
Here is another example of pulling after punch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftsM9LSGx-Y
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 08-10-2013 at 11:36 PM.
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Greetings,
One thing that I have to remind myself is that you are coming from a wrestlers perspective, YKW. You need to have contact. When bawang posted that link of that guy getting slammed, it did not communicate well because it was, pretty much, you doing the slamming.
mickey
I did Google on "手不空回 - Never come back empty-handed when you punch" and I find at least 4 TCMA systems has this. It's a quite common principle after all.
1. 吞吐拳 Tun Tu Quan
http://www.chazidian.com/r_ci_ed45c0...9cf391bdb522e/
2. WC
http://www.wingchun-kuen.com/forum/f...hread&tid=1547
3. 万胜拳 Wan Shen Quan
http://baike.baidu.com/view/3069111.htm
4. XingYi
http://www.wulinzhi.com/chinese-trad...ang-style/2797
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Greetings,
I find nothing wrong with the saying. Conceptually, it can apply to striking as well; simply stated, "Don't Miss" Fullness is in making contact. Fullness is in dominating your enemy. Fullness is in taking full control of a situation.
In real fighting, why would that strategy come to mind? You are fighting for your life. You have deal with the moment and its VARIABLES.
mickey
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