I do see similarity between the following 2 postures.
http://imageshack.us/a/img194/7194/npr0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img827/5639/68ux.jpg
If the founder of Cheng style Bagua system had "cross trained" the SC system, There was a high possibility that my Bagua instructor friend told me could be true.
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A8%...BB%B7%E8%8F%AF
程廷華(1848年-1900年,字應芳,河北省深縣程家村人,董海川之徒,為程派八卦掌的創始者。
程廷華自幼愛好武術,精通摔跤,因生計入京為學徒,後在北京崇文門外花市四條開設眼鏡舖,綽號「眼鏡程」。
Cheng Tinghua (1848-1900), Ying Fang, Shen County, Hebei province chengjiacun people of Dong Haichuan, He was the Cheng style Bagua founder.
Cheng Tinghua hobby martial arts since childhood, mastered in Chinese wrestling, living in
Beijing as an apprentice, he opened a glasses shop outside of the Beijing chongwenmen, nicknamed "Eye Glasses Cheng".
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 09-02-2013 at 12:01 PM.
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Cheng Ting Hua was a Shuai Jiao master before meeting Dong Hai Quan and learning ba gua.
Those pictures look similar but they are not. The ba gua guy has his leg closer to him because it connects his movement to the low back/Dan tien/core. The next move in the form is bai bu(step out) which would yield a different application than the sj pic. The sj pic application is one you know.
I don't have any proof. A Bagua instructor told me that.
oh........
but quoting a text that states he trained in SC does give pause to think he might of been influenced in his interpretations of Bagua.
now on that note the postures have some similarity but in the end falls to the intent and interpretation which there are many, many, many mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
bagua was created by a eunuch. train like a eunuch, and you will obtain the characterstics of a eunuch.
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Being a eunuch doesn't make someone unqualified to Kick ass Bawang. Zheng Hi was a eunuch and commanded the greatest fleet the Ming empire ever put forth.
Most all men who were in the inner court and serving the Emperor were eunuchs.
If the characteristics of a Eunuch are this level of accomplishment, perhaps you've forgotten something in your training? lol
Kung Fu is good for you.
You got two pages on "The most controversial TCMA system" here and I doubt it'll get that much longer (unless we hijack it with cosplay hottie pics ).
IS-Dfr has 1252 pages at this count.
WC has a whole god****ed subforum.
Bagua ain't even in the ballpark when it comes to 'most controversial', YouKnowWho.
Man, I should start a thread about how to properly title threads.
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I think wombat combat is the most controversial tcma system.
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Please take that up on the wombat combat thread, which at this point is only six posts deep.
That's right. Controversy is measured by how many members bother to post around here.
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This thread is for those who is interested only.
Unless you train "foot sweep", otherwise you may not care about this subject. When you train your foot sweep, you will notice that when and where you and your opponent may land that foot is very important.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTIzMDE2.html
You just don't want to give your opponent a chance to do so. The problem is after you have developed your "cross legs" bad habit, it's difficult to remove it.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 09-10-2013 at 05:09 PM.
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