[QUOTE=wiz cool c;1248309]chen free style push hands is a rough sport. i have competed in judo ,karate and jujutsu and push hands competitions, and the only time i got injured was doing a chen style moving .
----------------------------------------------------------------------There are real Chen stylists and then there are wanabees. The top Chen stylists that have come out of Chen village are very very good. There is a Chen stylist in LA's Monterrey park who has been challenged and did quite well.
On You tube you can see a Chen stylist easily handling a Sumo champion.