I think most of us don't consider the circus tricks the slightest bit interesting or convincing.
Coming in and saying "I'm sorry to have to report" is a bit funny / self-aggrandizing in that context. As if you're the only one who has ever questioned those silly shows with spear bending and board breaking.
It's especially funny when people come in with a chip on their shoulder or some personal pet peeve, and make up a bunch of straw men to attack.
It's a bit like me saying Miqi, gunbeatskroty, I'm terribly sorry to have to report to you guys that wrestling is fake. There are no wrestlers and it doesn't work. I've had the privileged opportunity to watch two professional wrestlers plan their fixed choreography before a televised match. Just some amazing contacts I have that enabled amazing me to find out the awful truth.
I hate having to break it to ya, seeing as how much you believe in professional wrestling, monster trucks, and giant chainsaws, but those are the facts.
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Rett, is it ok with you if I don't bicker back? I'm just too busy, mate. I was - and am - very sorry to have to report what I did because like many, I really, really wanted to believe in the Shaolin monks, and it was a big disappointment. I really didn't know - those sticks look really thick and those bars, because they are quire wide, give the illusion of being quite substantial. What a shame. And secondly, I'm on the internet slagging off the Shaolin monks - which I'm also sorry to have to do. Well, I didn't have to...
Professional wrestling is NOT fake Dude! Get real or get the he!! outta here, man!
I've seen probly millions of matches and they all look real to me and everyone else I watch with!!!!! I even gotta a T-shirt that says "Wrestling is Real!", so you know it is, cuz they couldn't make a shirt that says so if it wasn't true!!! That's like , against the Constitution and human rights and the Geneva Convention and the Bible and stuff like that!
I dunno, Rett - it's true that people can sometimes be overly dogmatically closed off to potentially valid information. But it's a suspicious and fallacious arguing tactic to describe people who have reasonable doubt, and a reasonable desire to see unusual claims supported by solid evidence, as "having a chip on their shoulder". That just sounds like a smear to divert attention away from lack of supporting proof.
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I'm all for taking a sceptical approach to wild claims. I cringe when people start using undigested ideas from physics to "explain" new age ideas. But I've seen how some here distort what people say, don't read carefully, insult reasonable people, and then demand "proof" for straw men and claims no one made. It's some kind of game they're playing. They come in with a pet peeve and then project the peeve onto whatever is actually going on. Anyway, I thought you didn't want to bicker about this. So why not stick to responding to what people are actually arguing or presenting instead of what you assume people are about.
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I never expected any magic or superhuman abilities from the Shaolin practitioners, so I guess I never got disappointed. What they actually do (the ones I'm familiar with) is plenty amazing enough. It's like the magic of an orchestra. They're that good. I'm not talking about the choreographed shows and circus tricks. I could never be bothered with that. To me the only superpowers truly worth trying to develop are the ability to use compassion to overcome cruelty, courage to overcome fear, equanimity to overcome worry and restlessness, and kindness to overcome hatred. Those sorts of things are the business of monks.
Last edited by rett; 10-20-2013 at 04:42 AM.
Well, my point was, we all believe in things that sometimes disappoint us when reality opens our eyes to our misunderstanding. It might be Santa Claus, Shaolin Monks, your parents, a teacher, the government, etc.
We all hold views, some of which, will not coincide with reality and at some point in life we will be hit with reality and that is a disappointment many times.
Nobody should be a victim. If reality hits you, hit it back.