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    Die Antwoord

    I was going to put this in Kung-Fu Music or ninjas but something told me that this band will be worthy of it's own thread.

    Die Antwoord - Enter The Ninja (Official)

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    ya dude those guys kick ass

    pick one and click it. muahahaha



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    Die Antwoord made the Rolling Stone Hot List

    I didn't make the connection between Yo-Landi Vi$$er and The Girl Who Played with Fire.

    Die Antwoord is opening for MIA, but not for the show I'll be working at the Fox next week. That's actually the week their new CD $0$ drops that day. They are scheduled to play Saturday at the TI Fest, which I wasn't planning to work, but might work now.

    Die Antwoord - Zef Side (Official)

    Die Antwoord to bush circumcisions
    The band's newest member raps about his fears on 'getting cut'
    Oct 3, 2010 11:19 PM | By GABISILE NDEBELE
    Controversial music group Die Antwoord are more than a just a trio of ''Zef" weirdos who spit and swear and wear pyjamas on stage.

    The three-member group consisting of lead rapper Ninja, Yo-Landi Vi$$er and DJ Hi-Tek, performed an hour-long show at the Bassline in Johannesburg on Saturday, and they've taken a new member under their wing - an 18-year-old street child known only as "Wanga".

    "We are trying to get him to join our band, but there are issues with getting him an ID. However, we are working on that," said lead rapper Ninja, (real name Watkin Tudor Jones). Ninja has even given him his own stage name: "Evil Boy".

    "I've known him since he was 13. Recently he told me that he was 'going to the bush' and explained to me what it was he was going to do there," said Ninja.

    "The laaitie sounded scared and told me that he would never be able to go to the townships as he would get beaten up, because he would be seen as a boy and not a man, as he had not been 'cut' (circumcised)," said Ninja.

    Ninja, 35, then advised Wanga not to go if he was scared, but rather to vent his feelings in a song explaining why he didn't want to go.

    Following that came their new single and a music video called Evil Boy , in which Wanga expresses his views on being circumcised. The video has the young man rapping in X hosa: " andifuni ngencanca yami incanca yami eyentombi qha " (I don't want you to touch my *****, it' s for women only), against a background of e xplicit images of male genitals.

    "This video might be misunderstood by people as offensive, but there are children who die each year from 'going to the bush'.

    "That's the point we are trying to put across. Just in a different way, with an in-your-face effect," added Yo-Landi.

    In the video, which has special effects created by special effects company The Creature Shock which did the effects for locally made film District 9, Ninja sports a latex claw, in addition to his outrageous stage outfits.

    "We are constantly trying to look at different ways of how we can create and recreate South African music to be consumed abroad, so we always combine what the international market likes with local sound," said Ninja.
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    Drops tomorrow


    Die Antwoord 'Want the Money From Nice People' For Debut Album
    by Gary Graff, Detroit | October 11, 2010 11:30 EDT

    The South African hip-hop troupe Die Antwoord (The Answer) is about to release its first album, but the group members can already tell you what's going to happen next. And after that. And even beyond that.

    "There's a five-album plan," explains group founder Ninja (real name: Watkin Tudor Jones). "Die Antwoord is super pop. It's a pop music. There's a certainly lifespan to it. We want to blow as hard as we can...and then disappear. We will always make music, but Die Antwoord is... finite."

    The Die Antwoord "plan" kicked off in 2009 with the free download release of the group's first album, "$O$," which comes out as an official release Oct. 12. "We remixed and remastered all those [original] songs and added new songs," Ninja says. "We didn't re-record; we just remastered, remixed, souped it up for release through [Cherrytree/]Interscope. It's like a souped-up beast about to hit the streets." Ninja says the eight-minute-plus "$O$" track "Beat Boy" and its accompanying 10-minute video have all the answers to what Die Antwoord are about.

    Ninja says "$O$" will be followed next year by a second group album, "Tension," which Die Antwoord has "finished writing already" and were about to release independently before singing the Interscope deal. Vocalist Yo-Landi Vi$$er's solo album, "The Voice," will come next, followed by Ninja's "Ninja Dominator." "Then," Ninja says, "the fifth one's a secret." And don't expect the group to deviate from the plan, says Yo-Landi. "We have to stick to it now because it's pretty much inked into my skin," she says. "It's tattooed!"

    Ninja adds that, "It's like how Michael Jordan retired as a God and then he came back as a man, which is kind of disappointing to the people of Earth. We don't want to go out like that."

    Before "Tension," however, Die Antwoord is planning a feature film titled "The Answer," which Ninja says is "the story of how the group came together," stopping just before it signed with Interscope. A "little pilot" preview of the film should be out in January, with full production to follow.

    "We've got this very strong idea of what we want to do," Ninja explains. "It's just not a matter of getting the money; we want the money from nice people who understand us and are not gonna **** with us. To be honest we were going to do it earlier, but we wanted to take our time to do it correctly. We're looking at March-April to start doing some shooting."

    By then, of course ,Die Antwoord will have made a live impact on U.S. soil, with a tour starting Oct. 14 in Portland. "Live shows are pretty much like the center of the storm... where the power comes from, the most raw experience," Ninja says. "That's the juice. That's where we hit the hardest. But sometimes it's better to watch a movie than explain a movie; the live show is similar to that, so just come see us."
    These guys are so funny. Can't wait for Ninja Dominator.
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    they are in town on thursday...planning on going. spendy tickets tho, but a sick venue to play.
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    Zeefff!!!!

    go see them live.
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    second album

    Exclusive: Preview Die Antwoord's Freaked-Out 'Tensions'
    By William Goodman on October 20, 2011 4:31 PM



    South African rap-rave provocateurs Die Antwoord — the freaky duo who blew up in 2010 thanks to their oddball online videos, debut LP $O$, and a co-sign from M.I.A. — recently invited SPIN to preview five songs tentatively set for their upcoming second album, Tensions, due in January. What did we learn? If you thought "Enter the Ninja" was off the wall, Ninja and Yo-Landi Vi$$er are ready to blow your mind in whole new ways.

    Judging by the five tracks, Tensions is even freakier and more absurd (hilarious skits!), yet simultaneously smart and culturally relevant (they capture South Africa's tumultuous political mood in song). Die Antwoord credit the sound of Tensions to staying at home in Cape Town instead of moving to New York City or Los Angeles, as many industry types suggested. "We needed to stay in Africa and return to the tension we had before our success," explains Ninja. "By staying home the acid trip of blowing up slowly faded away. The less that was going on the more creative we were."

    Get Die Antwoord's story behind each of the five songs:

    "Tsotsi Taal"
    This hard bangin' track opens with a group of African men chanting, "You can't stop me / You can try / But you won't survive," in a little-known South African criminal language. "There are different gangster languages in South Africa. This one is a language that was invented in prison during apartheid so the guards wouldn't understand what the prisoners were talking about," Ninja says. The song drops into a blitzkrieg of skull-rattling and abrasive beats, like a Skrillex song on 'roids, as Ninja spits, "I'm indestructible / Gangsta number one / The harder they come, the harder they fall." "We wanted it to sound apocalyptic or like warfare to represent the mood in South Africa at the moment," he says. What's that "mood"? "Everyone is ****ed off because all the ghettos are still ****ed," says Yo-Landi Vi$$er. "Things were supposed to get better, but everything is back to what it used to be." Adds Ninja, "But we can't leave South Africa. We're connected to it."

    "The Money and the Power"
    It opens with a poem recited in Afrikaans (the official language of South Africa) by a close friend of Vi$$er. Translated to English, it says, "That man / That man is a bird with iron wings / Flies branch to branch in search of work and money / He's an outsider with privileges / Outsider who disciplines Men / He's a gangster." Enter booming bass, clacking percussion, and ethereal background chanting similar to that in LL Cool J's "Doin' It." Ninja attacks, "Unlimited supply of *****es / Playboy don't play with me." The highlight is a catchy flugelhorn riff: "It's like the song from The Godfather, but set to a break beat. The movie starts with that riff, but it's played in a waltz. It's the ultimate gangster theme." The duo also gives a shoutout to Geto Boys rapper Scarface. "He's one of our favorite gangster rappers from America. Yo-Landi was listening to some old Scarface and she started shouting that hook — 'money and the power, money and the power' — over and over. But then she ****ed it up and changed the lyrics. He sings it in this big, dark gangster rap style. But ours has a psycho-freak-mode pop style to it."

    "I Think You're Freaky"
    "This is our first single. If you go out and party, this is the song," Ninja says. Amen. This fun, super-pop jam opens with Vi$$er squealing, "I think you're freaky and I like you a lot," over a bumping Euro-trance club beat. Ninja enters with super-fast, Eminem-influenced rap, then hollers, 'Jump motha****a, jump, jump motha****a jump." "When we go dancing we like hard ****in' rave," says Ninja. "It's a live thing more than anything else. We wanted to see how hard we could rush. It was like, 'Let's see how hard we can **** it up with 100 percent energy.' " Die Antwoord cite Belgian Euro-trance outfit 2 Unlimited as a major influence on the track.

    "Fatty Boom Boom"
    A hyper-rhythmic banger with what Ninja calls "hardcore black African voodoo beats." It opens with an unhinged beat box bit. "That's the only beat box of mine that I've liked," Ninja says. "I've always done beat boxing, but it's hard to do right." The duo rap about their recent rise to fame — "blowing up overseas," Vi$$er spits. "Taking over America blowing up everything," Ninja replies — between tribal "whoa, whoa" chants. "I think it's really fresh," Ninja says of the track. It then segues into a breakdown that's a tribute to smoking weed. Grooving, reggae-influenced dub bass takes over, accompanied by the sounds of lighters flicking and smokers inhaling. Jah!

    "Baby's on Fire"
    "It's some apocalyptic ****in' industrial rave," says Ninja. "This is my best song." It's certainly his catchiest — expect to hear this one a lot in 2012. It kicks off with an oddball skit between Vi$$er and Ninja, the latter who adopts a creepy, Italian Mafioso voice. "I just want to keep you in my office like a little pet," he says to Vi$$er. "If you need anything, you come here to my office and sit on my lap. Call me Uncle Jimmy," he says. The Euro-trance beat drops and off we go. Vi$$er chants, "give me a techno beat, a techno beat," then takes the rapping lead while Ninja handles the infectious chorus: "Baby's on fire! It's like a malnia." Ninja explains, "It has a double meaning. 'Mal' means crazy person and 'nia' means a ****er. So, it's 'crazy ****er.' But it could also be a girl that's dancing is making you think, 'Oh ****, that ***** is on fire and ****.' But also sometimes a girl makes you so ****ing crazy that you want to do something bad."
    Perfect timing for NINJASTAR 2011
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    if you ever get a chance to see them live, do it. really good show!
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    I caught them at the Regency in SF last night

    It was a young, clean and fresh crowd. A lot of people let their freak flags fly - a lot of costuming including a lot of gold spandex (Die Antwoord evil boy style methinks), some vampires, a big annoying purple bunny guy, a pegasus/unicorn dude (pegacorn?), a few ninjas and a guy in a Tiger Claw karate gi that he sharpied with Antwoord logos. There were a lot of great tattoos. It was a very visual crowd - fun to interact with.

    Die Antwoord had the crowd eating out of the palms of their hands. The DJ was like Humungus in the Road Warrior, who opened with a wicked mix with the lyrics "gonna **** you in the ass!" For a while, dm thought he was just there to flex his biceps to the beat, but he did deliver in the end. Ninja seems like a caricature white trash South Afrikaaner - or zef as he calls it. He's can spit lyrics well, and is especially good at shouting the word '****' and opened with an old skool back flip stage dive. Yolandi Visser is this tiny screeching elf - she's rather grating actually and should stick to singing over rapping.

    Die Antwoord wasn't as impressing as I'd hoped. But they did rock their finale, which was Enter the Ninja, of course, enough so that I'd check them out again if it met with my schedule.
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    Slightly OT

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    Ninja rap and Ninja droid

    I considered reviewing this film for KungFuMagazine.com even though the connection was slim. Then I saw Sigourney on Jon Stewart say that Chappie throws ninja stars, so I could have totally worked some angle to make it relevant. But I was too busy to make the screener.

    Chappie is a Mother****in' Ninja
    By Roxane Hudon on March 6, 2015 in film


    Yo-Landi, Ninja, Amerika and Chappie

    Once upon a time, there was a South African director named Neill Blomkamp who spread weeping nerdgasms throughout the world with District 9, his smart sci-fi debut about alien apartheid in South Africa. As these things go, the powers that be then threw a bunch of money at him so he could make a movie with Matt Damon. While many danced in glee at the sight of Jodie Foster in space, others struggled to see past, well, Matt Damon and his own personal brand of beige.

    So, how does one Sir Blomkamp follow that up? By making a talking robot movie starring rap-rave group Die Antwoord, obviously!

    Many will be quick to say that this film barely makes any sense, and of course, most of them will be right, but I’m gonna go ahead and support Blomkamp’s decision to just say, “**** it, I’m directing the next Alien, so who cares what I do till’ then!” Amen, brotha!

    Since this is a Blomkamp film, Chappie takes place in the not-so-distant future, in Johannesburg, where crime is rampant and everything is a bit ****. A company called Tetra Vaal is supplying the city with “scouts,” robot cops designed by geek **** Deon (Dev Patel). Ignoring orders from his boss Michelle Bradley (Sigourney Weaver) not to do so, Patel takes a broken model home to test his new Artificial Intelligence program.


    Yo-Landi vs. the robots

    Meanwhile, gangsta trio Ninja, Yo-Landi Vi$$er (Die Antwoord playing exaggerated versions of themselves, if possible) and Amerika (Jose Pablo Cantillo) come up with the brilliant plan to kidnap Patel and steal a remote that they imagine turns all robot cops off. Instead, they find Chappie (voiced by Blomkamp’s fave, Sharlto Copley), the first robot with feelings and thoughts, and decide to morph him into their very own gangsta titanium robot.

    Oh, also, while all of this is happening, Hugh Jackman has a mini mullet hair cap and is angry because no one wants his own giant robot Moose, so he tries following Patel around out of robot envy. Hilarity ensues!

    Let it be known that Die Antwoord do not simply supply a colourful cameo, but are the major driving force of this film — they are Chappie’s “mommy and daddy.” The star power amassed by Blomkamp is tossed aside to make room for all their weirdo alien glory to shine. Weaver seems like an after-thought who’s just there for sci-fi cred or an Alien stamp of approval, Patel weeps too much throughout and Jackman’s villain is barely developed, to the point where him crossing himself to Jesus near the end seems like an action thrown in by the actor to add some meat to the bone.

    Blomkamp appears to have struggled between creating an over-the-top silly sci-fi romp where the first intelligent robot created just ends up being a ****ty, bling-wearing gangsta who steals Playstations and sticking to his usual “it’s tough being an outsider in the future” spiel. Unsurprisingly, Ninja and Yolandi’s dramatic chops aren’t going to win any awards, no matter how awesome that would be (and not because the Oscars don’t like Africans). If you’re not a fan of their music, this may feel like a really long and intricate music video, or the longest build-up to Enter the Ninja ever conceived, but their part in this film makes this hot mess of a movie incredibly entertaining, hilarious and absurd. Sure, the story resembles Short Circuit, but Short Circuit remixed to the sound of Die Fokken Antwoord.

    In short, is this film the innovative follow-up to District 9 you’ve been gagging for? Maybe not, but it’s Blomkamp having a helluva good time before getting locked down to the boring, dreary and disappointing world of Hollywood sequel-making (sorry Alien fans, but remember Prometheus?).

    If you’re looking for serious sci-fi, this is definitely not it, so if you’re against having a good time, I’d recommend staying home and waiting for the next film based on something Philip K. **** once scribbled on a napkin. ■

    Chappie opens in IMAX and regular theatres today, Friday, March 6. See the trailer here:
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    Breaking up

    Die Antwoord: The Complete Interview
    Full transcript reveals Ninja explicitly declaring the end of the band
    By Daryl Keating
    Published Sep 12, 2016



    On Wednesday, September 7, Exclaim! interviewed Die Antwoord founding member Ninja about their forthcoming album, Mount Ninji and Da Nice Time Kid, out September 16 on Zef/Sony. During the interview, Ninja told Exclaim! that, following a planned fifth album expected one year from now, Die Antwoord would disband.

    On Friday, September 9, Exclaim! published a news story reporting the end of Die Antwoord, with quotes from Ninja, including the statement: "Die Antwoord dies on that day. It's all over." As the full transcript reveals, Ninja was even more explicit; when questioned if future projects might bear the Die Antwoord name, Ninja responds with "You weren't listening."

    After publication of that report, both Ninja and co-founder Yolandi Visser took to Instagram to deny the news. Ninja states "we not never gon stop making music, and art and videos and moviez ever," while also going on to say "but only 5 classic muddafukn DA albumz gon get made in dis life time."

    Visser, on the other hand, took a much more direct approach, claiming that we "totally twisted our words an took what we said completely out of context with his latest article."

    What follows is a complete transcript of the hour-long conversation between Daryl Keating and Ninja on September 7, including very explicit statements about the future of Die Antwoord. We were listening.


    Where are you right now?

    I'm in L.A. We're in a gap of our tour. It feels like we're always touring, and then we make music, and then we tour again. It's cool and then it gets hectic, like it gets fokken intense. But then you miss it again. The flying is horrible, but when you're on a bus, it's kinda cool.

    Oh ****, and once we went on a private jet, which was just like "Jesus Christ!" We had this show in Spain and our booking agents said, "There's a show in Spain, in between your shows, and the way you're scheduled you can't go there with a normal flight, so if you want to do it, you have to take a private jet." Wowee, that was ****ing the best. It's like a ****ing freakout. I was drinking champagne and playing music loud and telling people not to sleep. I was like "Sleep in ****ing coach! You're wasting money." It was our first time, so I was like "fuuuuuuuuuck." They say you know you've made it when you stop talking selfies of yourself on a private jet, but I obviously haven't made it yet, cos I was selfie-ing the **** out of everything on the airplane.

    Ok, let's talk about the new album for a bit. What's the meaning behind the name Mount Ninji and Da Nice Time Kid?

    Yolandi actually thought of that one. Well, I had written it on a wall in graffiti a long while ago. It's quite deep, the meaning. There's a light meaning and a deep meaning. The light meaning is that it sounds like this legend, like a cartoon or something, it just sounded cute and epic. I think that's what we liked about it.

    Me and Yolandi have gone through so much stuff, personally. Die Antwoord, is kind of like me an Yolandi's adventures, and we've got other people like our DJ, GOD, the artist previously known as DJ Hi-Tek, and Muggs who we've done this album with, who calls himself the Black Goat now. They're part of our crew now and part of lives, cos whenever we make music, 99.9 percent of the time we need to get involved with them. Whenever we do stuff with Die Antwoord, it's kind of like... I made a lot of music before this group that I'm kind of bored of and forgot about, and everything with Die Antwoord I really love. It's the first time I've made music where even the first songs we made, I really adore all those songs and I'm proud of them.

    So, we've gone through all these different experiences and we made this album now, we went through so many different things. Me and Yolandi came out of nothing together, like fighting and fighting, trying to escape from South Africa and have a bigger adventure with our music. In South Africa, we were like this bomb, me and Yolandi were like this bomb that didn't have a detonator and then all of sudden "Boooooom!" the internet was just this crazy way to connect to the fokken world in one like second, with all the stuff we had been building up. So many layers of music and videos and imagery, and then all of a sudden we exploded.

    We were girlfriend and boyfriend at that point, and we had a baby before Die Antwoord, and while we were in the group, we've all been like super best friends and hung out every day, and when we blew up... the first album is called $O$ because we literally were like "If we don't make it now, we're ****ed." It felt our last chance.

    Then, some miracle happened and we blew up, like really fast. I'd been rapping before that for so long and all of a sudden then **** just shhhhbooooom! And then we got a record deal and money, and we just kind of ignored the label and went back to Africa and pretended like nothing happened. Like, there was this weird tension from the ****in' label, it felt like we were in school, having to answer to someone all the time. Then me and Yolandi were also having fights, so we ended up turning that tension and the tension between us into music and we called that album Ten$ion and we made it really quickly, compared to the first record.

    Then, we were fighting so much in between these moments of greatness. Like, on Ten$ion, we made "Fatty Boom Boom" and "Baby's on Fire" and "I Fink U Freeky," and then with Donker Mag me and Yolandi broke up because we knew that if we didn't split up then the band was going to split up, so we had to choose. So, we called it Donker Mag, which is like Dark Force, and it was just this weird period that we went through.

    All Die Antwoord music, on a weird level, is like relationship music. I don't know if that makes any sense, but it really is. All of our songs are like a soundtrack to our relationship in a way. On Donker Mag, although we had broken up — and it's a big thing to break up with your baby momma, who you love — we stayed really good friends but it was obviously still difficult.

    Then we moved to Los Angeles after meeting Muggs from Cypress Hill. We wanted to try something different and I thought Sixteen would like school here. She's such a ****in' genius, man. I mean, we're more South African, I don't feel rooted anywhere else, but Sixteen is very American. Every time she came here she'd like pwwwwuuuchhh blast off. She was so closed in South Africa, I think because it's so dangerous, and like my Dad got shot and my brother hung himself and everyone's dying all over the place and getting hijacked and whatever, so Sixteen would really freak out. So, when she got into a more first world environment, she really came out of her shell.

    Also, we really wanted to sink into something while recording with Muggs so we went through a whole bunch of **** in the last two years. This album that's coming out now, we initially called it Rats Rule, cos Yolandi had this philosophy on rats, which I didn't understand at first, but she was like "You get the underdogs, and then you get the rats, that are even lower than the underdogs, but you can get rid of rats. They come from underneath and one day they're going to take over, so it's like us." So, the album is kind of playful and dark as well.

    We made that song "We Have Candy," which was a skit actually, where Muggs had made this psycho beat. We were being ridiculous, like singing about coffee and weed and guns, and different stuff that we like, and made this short little mental skit, and Muggs was like "Wow, do another verse. I wanna hear more of this ****." So, we ended up doing this song that had this weird, mental release of, like, "Bohemian Rhapsody" — it had us being retarded and singing opera and just going mad with this really random song.

    That almost became the mood of the album, we started making songs in that vein, and the song went from this sort of dark, mischievous call to this explosive, mental, fun, blast-off sort of ****. Then we carried on making songs and called the album We Have Candy for a while, but it doesn't sum up everything.

    Then after a while we made more songs and Yolandi did some really vulnerable stuff, which she's never done before, and we did "Banana Brain" and "I Don't Care," which are these really sweet, almost romantic songs, which we've had elements of before like the "Enter the Ninja" chorus, but those two track were these unexpected, epic anthems. "Banana Brain" sounds like a bad rave song but the lyrics are sentimental. Like, when I finished both of verses on those songs — they're really heartfelt — and Yolandi cried after each one. I rapped them for her, I was like "Check this out," I kicked it for her, and I remember on both times when I got to the end, she started crying cos they're really cute and sincere tracks. Even though the chorus is a kind of poppy, silly chorus it has a super deep meaning.
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    We don't really pay attention to people but it's funny how like the people who dig us without thinking about it, just love the essence of what we do and they're like "Wow, this song's crazy" and other people are a bit jaded or having a bad day or on their period or whatever, would be like "Aww, you guys are ****ed" or whatever. People say **** all the time, but we don't make music for people who love us and we don't make music for people who don't get it or hate us or whatever. All that stuff is super irrelevant and all that's relevant is us making this pure sound and songs that come from our soul and our heart.

    We started doing imagery for We Have Candy and we thought "This is just an element, it's not the core" and then when she said Mount Ninji and Da Nice Time Kid... In a nutshell, what Yolandi wants from me is to be like this ****ing force that's stable and epic, and also the transition from Ninja to Ninji is like this cosy force, you know? This kind of mountain force. And what I want from her, if she can just be in a good mood and have a nice time, I'm happy.

    There's also this South African gang called the Nice Time Kids, so she said she wanted to call herself Da Nice Time Kid, cos I had been rapping about the Nice Time Kids in the past. Even in the song "I Fink U Freeky" when she goes "Sexy boys, fancy boys, playboys, bad boys," those are all gang names from South Africa, and the Nice Time Kids are another street gang, which sounds like a cute name but, it's not really when you know about it. So, Mount Ninji is what Yolandi wants me to be and Da Nice Time Kid is what I want her to be, so when she said Mount Ninji and Da Nice Time Kid, I relaxed so much, I thought it was so epic and cute, and I thought it summed everything up perfectly.

    There's this movie we're making called South African Ninja that we've been working on forever — literally like ten years — and we've just been finishing it off now. We actually finished writing it two days ago, and my best artist, who draws comics, Ashley Wood, he's turning it into a graphic novel. Then I wanna shoot the graphic novel like a storyboard, like Sin City kind of, how Rodriguez turned Frank Miller's book into a film. Me and Ashley are really inseparable now. He's someone I'm collaborating with all the time now. He's ****ing amazing. The cover for Mount Ninji and Da Nice Time Kid album is like one of the last scenes from the film, so it all comes together.

    We're busy with so many things as well. Like, this is our fourth album and the fifth album, we're releasing next year in September 2017 in a massive art exhibition, in Cape Town at the MOCAA (Museum of Contemporary Modern Art Africa), I actually found out that the first MOCA is from Canada. So, they're making a MOCAA museum in Cape Town and we're gonna do our final album — cos we've always said we're gonna do five albums only — but we're going to present everything as one big retrospect.

    So, when you see the South African Ninja film — that's been our well that we've been drinking from and drawing stuff from since the beginning of Die Antwoord. We actually started writing it before Die Antwoord. So, it's been in the background for all of our ideas, which have all came from this film. It's a South African gangster film that has African ninjas in it. Everything in the film is fictitious, like a regular movie, but it's hard and raw, and everything in the film has some parallel to our lives, it's got a surreal connection to everything, it's really electric.

    My favourite book in the world is Neuromancer by William Gibson. He's my hands-down, all-time ****ing legend hero. I even got Ninja from Neuromancer. This rich family, they send a vat-grown ninja to go get a stolen artefact back in the book. They have a ninja in a vat that they just switch it on or whatever or take out now and again, to go run little errands for them and I was like, "****, that's cool." The book is so beautifully written and everything, like ninja's are like... ninja's, whatever. And we were thinking like, what's the worst rap name out there, and we thought someone who thinks ninjas are still cool, like a grown man calling himself Ninja would be kind of ridiculous, so that's the name we went with.

    We like unexpected ****, and often just what's funny to us. We're pretty much a combination of dark humour and insane skill, that's where we get our kick from. Like Chris Cunningham, the music video director, and Aphex Twin, they're a massive influence on us.

    So, stuff like the "Come to Daddy" video?

    Ya, Jesus. That felt like the first music video. Like, there were videos before that one and then there was "Come to Daddy." We often joke and say that was the first video ever made, like that changed it for us. Like, videos are cool when you check them out, but that video really ****s with you, you're like "What the fok! Jesus what just happened?!" It assaults your sense of reality.

    It's really weird, cos music really ****s with your emotions, and like a little dose of a music video is like a really strange format. With a film, you can get into it and love it, with music you can listen to over and over again, but with music videos they're like this short little stab. What Chris did with his videos changed everything for us. That's hands-down the reason we make videos, cos we're on a level with videos and we know we are. We've shut down so many videos, expensive ones too. We went broke once, I think from doing "I Fink U Freeky," after we'd blown up. Well, not broke, but it was close. After we got our money we moved back to Africa for the first time in ages, we got a house and a car —which we'd never had before — and then we just carried on making music and just ignored everything that had happened. Then we just made "Fok Julle Naaiers" and sent it to Interscope, who were like "No, you can't use this."

    They weren't happy with DJ Hi-Tek's part, right?

    Ya, they didn't like that part. They didn't like anything. They said that we couldn't release it and that we couldn't say this and that and you can't say "***got," but DJ Hi-Tek's gay and he said it; he can say what he wants. Even then they were like "No, even if he's gay, you can't say it," so we were just like "Fok you guys. We wanna break up with you. We hate you." And at the time, we had another 1.2 million bucks to make Ten$ion but we gave it all back to them, we wired it back, and left them forever. We've done everything on our own since then.

    Then we tried to do "Freeky," we shot it a bunch of times and it just wasn't good. Like, it was ok, but it wasn't amazing and there was such a huge pressure because the song was so good. Then we ended up having like ten grand left and we spent it on the video, which was kind of cheap in comparison to some of them. Well like, "Enter the Ninja" was around $500, how funny is that? "Zef Side" was free, "Rich *****" was $30,000, but usually we spend like $30 to $50 thousand, which is so much money. Even if we have a certain amount of cash, we'll try make a video that costs ten times that much, like we always push. Then "Freeky" was one of our cheapest videos and one of the most beautiful, perfect things we've ever made. We're just on this level with videos, which pretty much comes from Chris Cunningham, straight up. He set the standard. And we're friends with him, which is fokken crazy.

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    Do you think you'll ever work with him?

    I wish. I beg him all the time. He does stuff with us, but he's so insular, same with Aphex, who we're friends with too. They're such fokken geniuses, but they're so self-obsessed, like in a cool way. They're always doing stuff themselves. Chris is like a maniac who takes so long to do stuff. He'll tinker for ages. For instance, the "Ugly Boy" video we did, he did the Aphex mask for that, so we do stuff with him. Then that track has the Aphex sample too, that Richard said we could use.

    In the video at the moment, Chris is doing a little secret something on, or this film that I'm making, the South African Ninja, I want Chris to do this one part of it. Not the whole thing, but a little section. So, we always chat about doing stuff together, but we're both of a similar breed, where we get flat-out absorbed with what we're doing and like collaborations for like fame-related things, like how ****in' Drake does some **** with Rihanna or something, and it's more like you grab everyone's fans. We're not that kind of party, you know? It's more like another level of art. We make kind of pop music, really, but it's more like this weird high art kind of **** that lasts forever, not just a fad that will come and go.

    Man, Chris is a ****in' darling, and I wish I could work with him, but for now we just do little dibs and dabs here and there. He's a weirdo, he's so cool.

    And I'm friends with friggin' William Gibson, I can't believe it. Our friend said he likes us and we were like "What?!" Now, every time I speak to him, I'm blown away. He's so stylish, even if he writes like an email, he just writes so cool. He'll write like four sentences and I'm like "Uhhhhhhhh." But he's so grim too, ole William. In an email, he sent me **** straight from the pages of Neuromancer and I was like "Ok, I can die now." It was like the nicest, coolest thing ever. I was like "Did he really say that? He didn't just say that. That's fokken insane."

    Even when Chris said he liked our videos, I was like "Oh my god. That's impossible!" and when Aphex said he liked us we were like fokken shocked. When we first spoke to Chris, he said that the trippiest thing about the "Zef Side" video was that he couldn't tell if it was real or not and that it was ****ing him up. In that video we're actually ****ing around and joking on it, we weren't trying to make anything real or serious, we were just having fun, but with a high-level skill. It's totally from the school of Cunningham and Aphex Twin, they showed us that you can have insane level skill, insane music, and it can still be funny and sick and fokken cooler than anything in the world. So, we were like "We wanna do that," so we're massively influenced by them. And, of course, like '90s hip-hop and Yolandi loves rave. We're a real unusual blend of elements.

    Aside from "Banana Brain" and a bit on "I Don't Care," there isn't really any rave tracks on the album like your previous records. Is there any reason you've decided to sound more like North American hip-hop?

    It's funny, you said the same thing as the record label. The label said before that "There's not much rave on there," but on Ten$ion we had "Baby's On Fire" and "I Fink U Freeky," just two rave songs, and then on the first album we had "Wat Kyk Jy?" and "Beat Boy," two rave songs, and then on Donker Mag it was like "Pitbull" and "Happy Go Sucky ****y," two rave songs. We dig rave, but then I love trap. We like all kinds of music. We also like experimental stuff. The only problem that we have is that we can be a bit schizo. Sometimes I'd like if we could find one zone and **** with it, but it feels impossible.

    To not be so schizo, we're gonna do other projects, and before we do the last Antwoord album, like at the same time, in a more singular way. I wanna try **** with a solo album. We're doing a few things: Muggs is doing a solo album, and I'm doing this other thing. We're doing a few solo things, like side projects, well they're not side, we'll go fully into them, but they're singular sounds instead of all this crazy **** at once, you know? Die Antwoord is like a rap group, but there's elements of rave and trap.

    So, what's the last album gonna sound like?

    I'm not gonna tell you. I don't even know myself. Well actually I do know, but it's a surprise.

    What about these side projects. Tell me about those.

    I actually broke a promise: I said I wasn't gonna say anything about them and I ended up just talking about it cos I'm writing songs for it. We just want to like not say anything and then it'll just appear. We don't wanna advertise it or even ****ing say that it's us. It'll just come out of the blue at some point. A whole bunch of **** will just drop, booooooooomsccccch.

    I thought this album was a lot darker than your previous ones. Were you guys going through some dark times when you recorded it?

    Ya. That's why the name of the album is kind of light, like a cute little epic triumph. We just make music about our lives, so obviously in two years we've gone through like weird ****. We moved to a new place to record, which was fokken weird. I don't really connect with any sort of reality here [in L.A.] other than the studio. America is so fokken organized, just like Canada, and I'm not used to it. It's almost like being in a fokken zen buddhist retreat the whole time.

    At first it was difficult, but I turned around what was seemingly negative, cos all our music and all the art we make comes from a dysfunctional place and how do you operate in a place that's so functional? We'd go between South Africa and here, cos we have a house there and a little adopted family there, so we're kind of nomadic in a weird way cos we're either touring or we're recording here at Muggs' studio or we're shooting videos or whatever.

    You go through a lot of things in two years, sometimes dark. At the end it came out of these dark places that you sometimes fall into in life.

    There are themes of childhood and growing up throughout the album too. Was that intentional?

    Ya, that's basically Yolandi being pretty open and vulnerable, which was really pretty. It was like this really precious thing.

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    I thought Jack Black was a strange person to see on there. How did that come about?

    He came to our show once, in 2012. It was a Halloween show in Austin, TX. I think he was dressed as Popeye and someone said Jack Black and Jessica Alba wanna come to the show and was like "Who's Jessica Alba?" and they were like "It's the chick from Sin City" and I'm like "Oh ****. Ya, cool." So, then we finished the show and we saw them next to the stage and we were like stunned. So him and his wife came and spoke to us and they were just ****in' sweethearts and we've just been homies since.

    Then Yolandi wanted to do a soundtrack for her rat theme, that I didn't really understand at the beginning, but then it sunk in after a while. I also related to what she meant, heavily. Then she wanted to do this rat anthem, and then we started writing this thing, like a little musical, but like a trap musical. We really dig trap. Some trap songs I really like but sometimes it's boring and they regurgitate the same ****. You'll notice the people who tune in heavily to our music, we'll take existing stuff, that's even sometimes bad, or whatever bad means to you, and then flip it up and make it unusual.

    Jack always comes to our shows, and we chill at his house and everything. He's really how you'd think he is. Sometimes you meet some famous people and they're not like how they are, but Jack is like Kung Fu Panda, he's like exactly the same. He's sweet and awesome and funny and dark and silly. So, we went to his house while we were writing the rat anthem and I was like "Why don't we get Jack to sing that?" and she was like "Oh, **** ya."

    It was so funny, I called him, drove to his house, phoned GOD and said can we come record some ****. Then we just wrote it in his kitchen and then we went into the living room and GOD came with some raw bedroom recording **** and then we did it right there. It was kinda like a sketch, so Jack came into the studio later to redo it and it was just nowhere close to how sick the living room recording was, so we just ended up using the original version. Then we did the rap stuff afterwards.

    I kept redoing my ****. Yolandi raps so fokken well on that song and I had nothing, which I felt happened a lot of times on the album. Often we'll write stuff and Yolandi kicks her verse and I'm like "Aww, Jesus." I have to redo my **** cos she burns me. On this album it happened a lot, and her voice is so cutting, it's so amazing, it's like my favourite voice in rap. I really love Yolandi's voice, so it's hard to sit next to her, cos she's such a spectacular presence.

    On this album, I wanted to use my own voice rather than ****ing with characters and I leaned more into how I would normally speak and rap, instead of messing around with different accents and being all silly. Well sometimes I'm coming from a serious space, but my delivery is sometimes ridiculous. With this album, I kind of relaxed more into it. We were playing the album for this one chick, our publicist, who's really like a rap nerd, but she was like "Oh, who's this?" talking about "Daddy," cos she just assumed it was a guest spot, and I was like "That's me" and she was totally confused, but I thought it was cool cos it's really my own voice on this album.

    Also, what happened on Donker Mag... it was so weird. On the first two albums me and Yolandi's voices while we were together, as a couple, at no one time would you ever hear our two voices together. It's so weird. Then when we broke up on Donker Mag, we suddenly did a whole bunch of songs where our voices would go together. And on this album there's a lot of stuff where our voices have practically merged. They go together easier when we're not together, it's the weirdest thing. While we were together, our voices never worked together, and then when we're apart they sit beautifully together.

    It's strange how that works.

    Ya. Like, I dig new stuff. I wasn't really into anything new for ages and the first part of 2010, the tens or whatever. But some stuff that has come out recently I really like. I like Drake's stuff, I thought he was different from what he is. I first heard "Started From the Bottom" in a club in Paris, and I was like "What the fokkkkk! Who the fok is this?" and everyone was like "This is Drake," and I couldn't believe it, I thought he was all about this soft R&B ****, but that song and the one that goes "Mother****er" [ed note: our guess is he's talking about "Worst Behaviour"], so then I thought Drake was super ill.

    Even the way that he beat Meek Mill in that battle, that was amazing. I mean, I've heard battle rhymes before, but I've never heard a battle rhyme that goes on high rotation, played every single day on the radio in Los Angeles, it's so funny. It's quite an amazing thing, I was like "Jesus, that is the ultimate fokken dis track," where your **** is on heavy rotation all the time, everywhere. So, I like that aspect. Although when I saw him live I thought it was boring as ****, you know? It's not ill. Like, I dig ill ****. Something that's like sick, kind of hardcore and twisted and just like raw and no brains, that kind of stuff.

    But then I get shocked sometimes, you know? Like, the Weeknd, who's also Canadian, I fokking looooove that ****. I like when he gets nasty, like "Often" and "The Hills" and "Earned It." The Weeknd's music, his beats, fokken hell, they **** me up man.

    Just the other day when we were driving with one of our dancers and she was playing this track, I only recently just heard it so I'm not even sure of the guy's name, it's Tory Lane or something.

    Tory Lanez.

    Jesus. I was like "What the fok is this?" Then I listened to it again yesterday with Yolandi, and I thought the production sounded a lot like the Weeknd actually. The production and the beats are like this dark, sexy, surreal, trippy kind of R&B ****, but mother****in' that guy is iiiiiiilllll. I love that ****.

    I feel so happy when I find something new that I can **** with. So, how you do you say his name?

    It's Tory Lanez.
    Tory Lanez, he's a Canadian also, right?

    Ya, that's right.

    Mad, man. So, when you say North American hip-hop, that's where I come from basically. Like, where I'm from culturally, my culture is rap music. I've been rapping forever now. I'm from Africa staying in America, I'm in between the two, I'm an African American hip hop freak. I'm like super influenced by North American hip hop, always have been. I just wanna inject another accent and another style into it.

    So, does the Weeknd and Drake and Tory Lanez sound Canadian? Is that like Canadian hip-hop?

    I think it sounds pretty North American in general. I mean, certainly West coast American hip-hop sounds different, but a lot of the East coast stuff sounds similar to that.

    The Weeknd's stuff for me, like his earlier stuff was kind of like Michael Jackson and all "La la la, love love love" and when he started doing nasty **** mixed with that style, I was like "Fokkkk." Those are literally some of the most beautiful beats I've ever heard in my life. And this Tory Lanez stuff is from the same kind of school or something. Kind of erotic, narcotic, ****in' sexy R&B, that's also nasty. Sometimes R&B is nastier than rap music.

    That's my favourite kind of **** man, when stuff is catchy and dark. I love weird pop, that's my favourite type of ****. When ****'s like ****ing strange and super catchy at the same time. Not like **** pop. The theme of pop for a while now has just been to inbreed and everyone copies everyone. Queen didn't copy anyone, ABBA didn't copy anyone and they're pop as ****. Did the Beatles copy anyone?

    I think they did.

    They're probably influenced by people. Like, who do the Beatles sound like?

    I'm not sure exactly, but I feel like they did copy someone at some point.

    I mean, you can't really say the Beatles sound like a particular act or whatever. It's cool when influence is like slick. Do you know Daniel Johnston?

    Ya, I do. He's a strange man.

    He's ****ing amazing. Like, Kurt Cobain was influenced by him, which is so weird. And Daniel Johnston is super influenced by the Beatles, but that's where the ****'s like ****ing dope. From the Beatles to Daniel Johnston to Kurt Cobain, that's cool, that's a dope influence. So, obviously we get influenced by ****, but the influence is invisible. We've always been influenced by North American hip-hop and now they're influenced by us [laughs].
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