Pushups are mechanically similar to a decline bench press, which does target the lats somewhat, especially if you squeeze them. Also, the pectorals are slighty engaged in pullups, too.
If you try Hindu pushups, these work the lats even more.
Pushups are mechanically similar to a decline bench press, which does target the lats somewhat, especially if you squeeze them. Also, the pectorals are slighty engaged in pullups, too.
If you try Hindu pushups, these work the lats even more.
I think they're described on www.dragondoor.com
They remove the hip flexors from picking you up. Standard situp position, have someone pull into your calves and you pull against it and down into the ground. Then sit up! Roll the back off of the floor slowly and lower slowly.
I was thinking just the other day about how to do these without a partner and this is what I came up with. Take two cinder blocks (or equivalent) and place next to a doorway. Place a broomstick across the top and use that for your calves to pull against. Hint* pick a time when traffic isn't busy.
I welded my own setup for this but know most people can't. So what do you think? Got a better idea?
Best description I know of is on Clarence Bass' site. Find the article called "the hardest situp."
I don't do much abdominal work but one thing I find helps is to hold the up position of a pushup. The effect is kind of like a static hold, you have to tighten up the inner abs.
Once you get better at pullups you can start doing pikes. They take some abdominal strength, can be brutally hard, and involve just about everything from the hips up.
Last edited by abobo; 04-23-2003 at 07:02 PM.
Hi madlock, welcome to KFO.Originally posted by madlock
Hello everyone.
My case is pretty simple: I can't do a single proper pull up or a chin up. What kind of excercises do you folks think would be most efficient for strengthening the muscles used in pull ups? Would at-home training with dumbells be enough or should I hit the gym? I'd appreciate input - very much looking forward to doing my first correct pull up :P
I'm surprised no one has asked yet; how much do you weigh?
How close to doing one pullup can you get?
How old are you?
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Thanks for the description, I'll be trying those. Will let you know if I come up with a different way to do it Cyborg.
Hello IronFist.
I am 185cm/75kg, which should be about... 6 feet / 165lbs. So the problem shouldn't be my weight, just a weak upper body.
The most difficult part is getting my elbows to bend when starting from the hang position. If I start with my elbows bent slightly I can do a painful couple, without going all the way down of course. Yah and I'm 19 years old. By all means add a diagnosis of your own
Well, assuming you have no medical condition that prevents you from using your muscles when your arm is straight, it is much better to do full reps (go from all the way down (straight arms) to all the way up). Trust me, you will be much better in the long run if you do them this way.
Besides, the guys at the gym who are doing pullups but only going down half way suck, and then you will be able to make fun of them
Some of the people here have given good advice. I was never unable to do pullups so I don't have any personal advice.
Good luck.
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Here are a couple of doorway chin up bars that let you get a wider grip than the usual doorway types.
http://www.megafitness.com/doorway-c...76&PID=1264782
http://www.need2bfit.com/cgi-bin/cat...b34&type=store
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Those look great. Affordable also.
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