I agree with this after looking at the two gentleman listed. I found one of their forms on youtube and could recognize a lot of Shaolin Kempo Karate moves in it. Looked nothing like the 5 Animal taught by Ark Wong.
Those who are not true of heart will NEVER see they're living a lie. all that matters is the lie. After 40 + years in the martial arts, 39 of them in the Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut system, i know what is real gung fu and what is FAKE FU. Kung Fu in karate GI's with japanese ranking systems wrapped around their waists is the FIRST RED FLAG of pure fukery. ALMOST all of Wong Ark Yuey's lineage looks and moves like that system and being that Wong Ark Yuey and Prof. Lau Bun were good friends, i will defend wong ark yuey's lineage.
the TRUE SCHOOL will never fall for the okey doke of the hokey folk faking the funk about kung fu in karate gi's. I coined the term KUNGARATE.
that's what it is. Karate wishing to pass off as kung fu by people who presume no one knows how to tell the difference.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better