Sip Batt Mor Quil

[fiercest tiger]

i dont really understand your question! do i do the form like the same fellings as my sifu. are you asking me, if i do the same form with his expression?

if you are the answer is NO, his kung fu was ultimate, i wouldnt have standed a chance. but i practise in the manner i was shown by him.

i hope that helped.. :confused:

peace

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[CLOUD ONE]

F.T what is important the movements in the forms or the essence of each form?
Which forms are correct when so many practitioners of the same kung fu do it differently. From what you were taught have you made Sip Bat Mor your own or is it the same as your teachers. If so, what does your demons look like?
From Gao Pu Tui to Sip Bat Mor, is it only the moves that are different or is there more?
In your Sip Bat Mor, is there Len Fa Sui ?

[WongFeHung]

I think we are forgetting that Kung-Fu terminology is full of puns, or play on words. Some words sound the same but have different meanings, and this is often used intentionally to describe not only technique, but application, and qualities of energy. Sup Bot Mor Kiu has also been called Sup Bot Gwai-Sao, and in some schools, Sup Bot Mor Jow-perhaps each Sifu had a different interpetation, or emphasis he was trying to convey. Your mission Jim, if you decide to accept it is to seek out different ways of looking at the same form, or movement, or application or theories. Otherwise, your Kung-Fu will just be a mimicry of the previous generation-much the way a parrot speaks, but is unaware of the content. This is your obligation as a student of Kung-Fu-to make sure that the next generation is not weaker than the previous, but stronger, wiser,more educated, so the system lives and grows rather than wither and die. Who knows to what level you can take your Kung-Fu?

[MoQ]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I think we are forgetting that Kung-Fu terminology is full of puns, or play on words. Some words sound the same but have different meanings, and this is often used intentionally to describe not only technique, but application, and qualities of energy [/quote]
This is a really good point that alot of literal types miss by way of not actually having a Chinese sifu as the source of their terminology...

[fiercest tiger]

you learn a form off your sifu then you decide to ADD your own essence or flavour to it? hmmm i try and keep it as it was taught, my fighting applications i work out or what works for me. if i was to change the way the form was supposed to be like, i would be changing tradition. i cant look like my sifu because of different body shapes and sizes, the forms are performed with yau kung- soft/flexible power different from the beginner an intermediate levels.

what do my demons look like? linda blair!!

what are the 18 bridges? you havent answer my question?

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[CLOUD ONE]

So F.T, the applications you work out yourself. Didn't your SiFu teach you anything about San Sou?

[illusionfist]

I think you misunderstood what FT said. He means that he adapts the applications to his own fighting style

Peace :D

[fiercest tiger]

what do you think i just do forms? i teach kung fu, i wouldnt be a sifu in ykm if i didnt know how to work out forms!!! :rolleyes:

i trained for 14 years with my sifu before he passed away, i did bi shee and i am considered family. make your own mind up, seems you have.

have you learnt this form? did your sifu teach you everything about it?


what are the 18 bridges????

illusion- hows thing mate? hope things are well...
:D

peace

bakmeimonk@hotmail.com

[tonfas]

Hi, sorry, which styles are you talking about? because in southern mantis has a form call ' sup ba mor'

most of the hagar has mor kiew form.

peace

:confused:

[tonfas]

Hi clound one,

Which 18 mor are you talking about.

Mantis, pak mei, dragon or any hagar styles.

most of the hagar had 18 mor??

tonfas@hotmail.com

[CLOUD ONE]

Does it matter which one?
Do you study all of them? If so what would your translation be?(Sup Ba Mor)

in Hakka Pak Mei mor kiew is in all the forms, from Ti Poo to ?

Why 18 ?