calories/protein

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by ged
thanks for the info everyone.
so if i'm serious about gains, i should forget about losing my gut? i suppose it's the price i have to pay. personally i think it adds to my debonair appeal.

Not really. you can be big and lean, you just can't really do both at the same time. prioritize what you want and go from there. What's your diet like?

[ged]

basically i just eat as much protein as i can. for breakfast this morning, i had a tuna sandwich and a glass of milk. i fit in a protein shake during the day, have 2 other meals during the day with around 35 g of protein, have red meat or chicken for dinner, and in between drink lots of milk and eat cheese.

that doesnt include the crap i eat obviously, which i cut out when im trying to lose fat.

i think ill try and put on mass for a year or so, then concentrate on getting the fat cut out. ill probably be used to eating a mountain of food every day by then, i only hope ill be able to lose the fat successfully.

[SevenStar]

how much do you weigh and how tall are you?

[ged]

89kg, or 195 pounds, bit over 6 foot, and am nearly 19 years old. in the last 2 years ive put on about 20kg, of which a fair bit is fat, but a fair bit is muscle too. all the fat is mostly on my stomach.

[SevenStar]

How much do you want to gain?

[greyseal]

Here is a freaky thing, and I'm not totally sure what it is, but here goes: The 'second wind' thing. Everyone has heard of it, right. I experienced it once during a pick-up basket ball game. I'd been running for some time, back and up the court, and eventually, I was so tired. Then, about five to ten minutes later, I had so much energy it was sick! I actually think that I felt better than, then when I started to play. So, does anyone have an opinion as to what happened? Carb depletion followed by the body burning fat stores?

[SevenStar]

yeah, that's the way it works. fat has twice the amount of energy per gram than carbs, so you get that boost when the body starts converting fat to energy.

[ged]

not sure how much i want to gain - im going to leave it open ended.

[SevenStar]

eat like a hungry hippo. Keep it healthy though - Ironfist has a reccomendation of how much protein you should get - I think it was one gram per pound of bodyweight. I've got a chart that shows approx how many calories people of a certain height/weight burn per day for active, fairly active and sedentary people. I'll check it and see what it says. you'll want to consume at least 500 calories a day more than that number - if you count calories anyway.

[12345]

Originally posted by ged
89kg, or 195 pounds, bit over 6 foot, and am nearly 19 years old. in the last 2 years ive put on about 20kg, of which a fair bit is fat, but a fair bit is muscle too. all the fat is mostly on my stomach.

Ged

Your call but I am a bit worried that you are eating so much fat - the cheese, meat and milk might be overdoing it a bit. Also as you already weigh quite a bit so I would not worry about how much you eat - rather I would concentrate on what I ate. If you want to really concentrate on gaining mass at least cut out the fat and go for something healthier - but there is no real need to start worrying about diets to gain .

[SevenStar]

he's okay as long as he keeps the meat lean and the cheese and milk lowfat. I can't stand skim milk though, so for me it would be chicken, fish and occasional red meat. the extra protein would be protein shakes w/milk.

[ged]

thatd be cool sevenstar if you could find the calories info. not sure if id be active/ fairly active or what, 10 hours of kung fu a week is a heap of aerobic/anaerobic activity (never sure which one).

1245 - yeah, im a bit worried about my fat gains too the cheese i eat is low fat, the milk isnt - like sevenstar, i hate skim milk. tastes like white water. but i seem to be actually losing a bit of fat since ive doing regular kung fu again - hopefully this wont affect my mass gain. im going to eat like a 'hungry hippo', concentrate on low fat high protein, and see where it takes me.

thanks once more for the advice/info guys.

[SevenStar]

To maintain that weight, you should be consuming about 3,120 calories a day.