Knifefighter
This has gone too far.
It’s like this,
1st, I think you lying you’re a$$ off. To begin with if you were serious in the first place you would have e-mailed us directly instead of putting it up in here or both. But I’ll get back to that.
If you had anything to do with that event, why don’t you know the name of the kung fu guy? Also, We only spoke on the skill of the kung fu guy.
Next, Why should we put up any money at all? You challenged us. So let’s make this clear, as the senior I’m telling you we will not put up a dime. You challenged us. We don’t look for fights. We just stand our ground.
(As Phantom Menace asked, "Where are the videos?" The San Soo guy stepped up and put it on the line against John Marsh, a top MMA fighter. If you are going to criticize him, it begs the question, "Where is the video of you fighting a top MMA guy?" As a matter of fact do you have any videos of your supposedly beating these internal people?)
I don’t know what you thought, but that’s not why we started learning the martial arts. All the fights we’ve had were our experiences along the way. We learned for our selves, not with the thought that we were going to be commercial teachers and needed proof of our experiences for other people.
On the sports circuit, most of the critics have never even had a fight. Do they need a video of themselves?
The points made about the San Soo guy stand. We don’t need to have our own video to see that that was a horrible display. None MA’s could see that as well.
(Do YOU have enough skill to put $5,000 on the line?)
Why should I? Again you came at us. Who ever heard of the challenged putting up the money? Look man, we’ve already got a history of dealing with this subject.
(So with your knowledge of ground fighting, maybe you can critique the San Soo guy’s technique on the ground. What do you think he did wrong on the ground? Did you see him doing anything right on the ground? What techniques would you have used to keep John from attaining side control? What would you have done if John did get side control on you?)
He had no ground technique. He had no attack period. The BJJ guy just waited and swallowed him up like a baby. He just ran at him with some weak attempt to fake him out and just got took out. That wasn’t even a fight. The BJJ guy didn’t even have to use his technique. He simply snatched his ass up and put an end to it.
He had no strategy at all. True training teaches you how to deal with weight and height differences. You just don’t run at a man that’s got a distinct advantage on you. You have to think. This shows his lack of experience.
(You are an accomplished ground fighter? OK, so let’s hear your technical critique of the San Soo fighter’s ground work, since you were the one who originally stated he had no skill.)
As I said before, he had no skill. What’s to talk about?
(Based on the above quotes and considering the fact that there were no high kicks thrown in that fight, what might that suggest about blacktaoist as a fighter?)
First of all, if that wasn’t a high kick that he was attempting, he’s got some weird body mechanics. While the kick didn’t go high at all, even if it was a low kick it didn’t matter, because the moment he lifted his leg the BJJ guy was on him. But it doesn’t matter anyway. He stopped him cold.
( It always amuses me the claims people like blacktaoist and Maoshan make about defeating grapplers and groundfighters, but when asked to comment about the technical aspects of grappling and groundfighting, either cannot do so or have no clue when they do try to comment on what is actually going on.)
What are you saying here? There was nothing to discuss. That was no quality match. And you can see what is going on. What, you wanted a description like what CD Lee gave? Why? That’s a waste of time. And as far as my knowledge goes I’ll tell you this,
There are a lot more methods to ground fighting then the BJJ’s use. Grabbing and locking is not the end all be all of close fighting, it’s apart of it.
(Most of the people who ridicule the San Soo guy have never fought a real fight and those that have never have gone against a quality opponent. These people don’t realize that fights don’t happen the way that they happen when they are choreographed in the movies. Most people who fight in the high stress situation of a challenge match or real fight, especially if they aren’t used to doing it regularly, will lose 30 to 80% of their skills, no matter how highly trained they are.)
Man, You don’t know what you’re talking about. All of my fights have been real. F**k tournaments. This is not a game for me man. No hobby. Anything that has rules is a game, that’s your premise, not mine. I’m not trying to be a sportsman. You act like we’re new to this or something. We’re old school man. I’ve been doing this for 33yrs now. In the ghetto’s of NYC, which was my testing ground, you win or lose, live or die. This ain’t no movie. We speak from knowledge and experience. Bring you’re a$$ to NY.
(The reason I ask about videos, is that these people make claims about being such great fighting machines, but there is absolutely no evidence to back it up. The most you might see is one or two of them playing patty-cake on their web site. At least the San Soo fighter has actually fought a quality opponent, something 99% of those putting him down have never done. Not only that, he has the video to prove it.)
Patty-cake? You don’t know what you’re talking about. My Brother fought and won against the Beijing San Shou champion and it was video taped. My matches were privet. But forget that, you want proof? Come to NY. All the info is there. We’re not hiding. As I said if you we’re real you would have e-mailed us directly. We haven’t been on KFO for a minute. You already mentioned that you’ve come to our site. Why didn’t you post this crap there? Simple your trying to start some S**t. My brother wrote you directly, it took you a bit of time to respond because you were shocked that you got a response.
Also, I know your full of sh*t. First you said that you had a part in putting that fight together. Now your saying that he’s not apart of your camp. You said these two guys on the clip. Now you’re coming with a whole new crew. And you want us to pay for it.
Yo, you think we’re stupid and you’re the grand manipulator. It ain’t happenin man. You won’t use us to get paid. You don’t have the money to begin with. You want a guarantee from us so you can use it to get some other guys to put it up and get yourself a nice cut.
Let me make this clear for you.
You challenged us; We’re not putting up a dime. Outside of that what you sent my brother is cool with me too. I’ll sign. But, only with the two guys you mentioned to begin with. You think your slick. It ain’t working.
But remember this. You came to us not the other way around, if you want this to happen then make it happen. See we don’t have it like that to just take money that could be spent on our families or ourselves to put on this type of thing. Besides I don’t trust you. If you were serious, you handled it wrong from the start. My brother has told you where he stands now you know my stance on this. You’re trying to make a name for yourself off of us. We will not be used. Nor will I Come back up on KFO to respond to you. This is the only post I’ll make.
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