MB- nope, didn't get it. I PM'd you.

I worked a little more on that BJJ move tonight. It seemed to work well and left me in good position no mater what he did, or what 'what if' we threw in.

rogue and MS2- useing your chin? You lost me there guys. The only thing I can think of to do with my chin is turn and tuck it to help deal with the choke. I don't think I'd want to depend on it to trap and hold the knife hand, and certainly not the knife itself. What are you doing with your chin?