Shaolin-Do answers challenge.

[norther practitioner]

Ah, my bad.... my mistake, I thought mulan fan was around longer than that....

[Shaolin-Do]

Fear the 10000 bees attacking.
I will sting your face.....
hehehe
I am interested to see that.

[themeecer]

Well I will be attending the seminar and will report back on what it looks like. I am more interested in the monkey fist ... not too interested in waving a fan around. But I could be pleasantly surprised. I need to go buy a couple of fans before though. (Wonder how long it takes for an advertisment for fans on martialartsmart.com )

They are having a Master's division at the tourny in Ky as well. I'll be taping it and will see about posting it to the web. I have to purchase the equipment to do that before, though.

[Kuen]

Grandmaster Sin Kwang Thé will teach a praying mantis form seen by few people in the world

Yeah, except for the copyright holder on the video it was "borrowed" from.


Dillman, anyone?

[Brad]

Dillman?

Fear the 10000 bees attacking.
I will sting your face.....
hehehe
I am interested to see that.

My guess is he either pokes you a whole lot thus annoying you to death... or shoots you with a nail gun. What do you think?

[Ground Dragon]

He was teaching seven star praying mantis forms at one time. The same forms that could be found on videos in more than one place, and these were different than the praying mantis forms him and Hiang learned in Indonesia.
No telling what kinds of videos he can uncover out in California to help 'refresh' his memory of the 950 forms he learned.

[Okami]

Glad to see things don't change much when I get to busy to visit for a week.

[norther practitioner]

THESE are nice, I use one for my fan form... They are a little bit shorter than the others I use, however, but I still really like 'em.

yeah, didn't last too long..

[crazymaddrunk]

The ALMIGHTY ground dra-goon and Kuen (how original), know-it-alls in the martial arts world...you guys are a bunch of a$$-grubbing clowns...you guys are probably a couple of b!tche$ around the office, stuffing socks in your drawers and gossiping by the water fountain like the girlies you are...thanks for the enlightenment, toyboys...

[Kymus]

Originally posted by Brad
And why the hell can I say HELL and not f art?!!!!! Frickin censors, lol

I am 110% behind you there Brad.

[Ground Dragon]

Originally posted by crazymaddrunk
The ALMIGHTY ground dra-goon and Kuen (how original), know-it-alls in the martial arts world...you guys are a bunch of a$$-grubbing clowns...you guys are probably a couple of b!tche$ around the office, stuffing socks in your drawers and gossiping by the water fountain like the girlies you are...thanks for the enlightenment, toyboys...

At the risk of feeding the trolls...

Nah, on second though not worth the trouble. Glad you've found a place you're happy with.
Not really constructive to personally attack someone you know nothing about though. Just my 2 cents.

[crazymaddrunk]

No, I won't let it go, or let you off the hook just because you want to reply to me and "act" mature all about it. How mature is down-grading another martial art? Just because YOU think it's fouled up or fake, let's make sure everyone else believes as you do, for if they don't they're ALL wrong. Who died and made you the all knowing master of martial arts? Where's the time machine that you used to go back and gives you the right to downgrade ANY Grandmaster? Does YOUR teacher condone this behavior? What do you study? Name it and I guarantee I would have heard something negative about it. But you don't care, as long as you can go into a chat room and downgrade someone else's martial art you can satisfy your insecurities. You're not even proud enough to list which martial art you study. You prolly train at the Living Room Temple and practice "Enter the Dragon" kung fu while imitating Bruce Lee. If I were jumping on the bandwagon and bashing SD like you, you would agree and call me a hero. But since I'm bashing you, you call me a troll. So be it.

[The Willow Sword]

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[Ground Dragon]

Originally posted by crazymaddrunk
No, I won't let it go, or let you off the hook just because you want to reply to me and "act" mature all about it. How mature is down-grading another martial art? Just because YOU think it's fouled up or fake, let's make sure everyone else believes as you do, for if they don't they're ALL wrong. Who died and made you the all knowing master of martial arts? Where's the time machine that you used to go back and gives you the right to downgrade ANY Grandmaster? Does YOUR teacher condone this behavior? What do you study? Name it and I guarantee I would have heard something negative about it. But you don't care, as long as you can go into a chat room and downgrade someone else's martial art you can satisfy your insecurities. You're not even proud enough to list which martial art you study. You prolly train at the Living Room Temple and practice "Enter the Dragon" kung fu while imitating Bruce Lee. If I were jumping on the bandwagon and bashing SD like you, you would agree and call me a hero. But since I'm bashing you, you call me a troll. So be it.

I study chung yen shaolin, under Hiang The' (Sin's brother) but my main teacher is a student of HIang's. Well, I haven't been to that class for a while now though. I decided to crosstrain with different people and arts including some local bujinkan folks and a friend of mine that does tkd. I had been doing bjj exclusively for a while now, which I have been doing off and on for the past few years, but not consistent enough (until now) to really build on anything.
I'm not really knocking sd at all, that would be kind of crazy of me. I don't think sd is fake. I'm knocking Sin The. Yes, I've met him and he was very nice so I can't say he's a jerk or anything like that. For all I know he is the nicest guy in the world. That's not that point, he has lied about what he knows, what he can do, and the history of the art you study. That is the only thing I'm saying about him.
I have had conversations with other sd folks over the last couple of years, most of the people were pretty cool, and most of them admit that they don't buy into everything Sin says. Even they admit he's lying. Oh well.
And I don't really care for all of the sd bashing. I wish these stupid threads would never pop up to be honest. I called you a troll because you lashed out at me personally instead of trying to refute what I was saying. You seemed to be trolling to get an angry response from me and possibly others.
I've really said enough, if you are happy studying sd go for it. I'm confident you cen get out of it what you want.

[themeecer]

Ummmmmmm ....... chung yen shaolin = shaolin do.

It is the same art. When I started training the brothers had not split yet. In fact Master Hiang The' signed my yellow belt certificate. I've seen some chung yen shaolin students and they teach exactly how we teach at my school.

he has lied about what he knows

Now, how the heck do you know this? Have you sat down and asked him to do 900 forms and caught him when he stopped at 835? The discussion on how 900 forms could be known has been beat to death, but I will add my little argument. Myself I have over 240 forms. How is that possible? Well, contained in that are the 30 short forms, the 20 sparring techniques, 12 Hsing I animals, all the live/dead and shien tien, and so on. Do all of them take as long to do as our Yang Tai Chi, 20 minutes? No, some of them take a little over a few seconds to do. The point is, I can count my material as 240 distinct forms. So for marketing reasons, it is no stretch of the imagination to believe Sin The' has 900 forms.