Shaolin Do vs. Chung Moo Doe/Oom Yung Doe

[Fu-Pow]

After our lengthy thread on Shaolin Do....I'm curious....what do you Shaolin Do guys think about Chung Moo Doe/Oom Yung Doe?

For those of you not familiar with the "style" here's the link:

http://www.oomyungdoe.com/

I don't want to hear this crap "well, I haven't been to a school so I can't comment."

Just based on the website, reading the history, looking at the curriculum....what do you guys think?

Does this seem like a reputable school to you?

Is this somewhere that you might check out and seriously think about training if you weren't busy with your Shaolin Do?

I'm curious because these schools.....much like Shaolin Do, are not considered reputable by almost all of the MA community.

There are many similarities:

1) A dubious and implausible history.

2) Only hold closed tournaments.

3) Claim to teach an huge variety of styles that are not closely related.

4)A belt grading system.

5) A centralized "head" figure from which all knowledge supposedly comes about all the styles.

[TonyM.]

54321.....

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by Fu-Pow
After our lengthy thread on Shaolin Do....I'm curious....what do you Shaolin Do guys think about Chung Moo Doe/Oom Yung Doe?

For those of you not familiar with the "style" here's the link:

http://www.oomyungdoe.com/

I don't want to hear this crap "well, I haven't been to a school so I can't comment."

Just based on the website, reading the history, looking at the curriculum....what do you guys think?

Does this seem like a reputable school to you?

Is this somewhere that you might check out and seriously think about training if you weren't busy with your Shaolin Do?

I'm curious because these schools.....much like Shaolin Do, are not considered reputable by almost all of the MA community.

There are many similarities:

1) A dubious and implausible history.

2) Only hold closed tournaments.

3) Claim to teach an huge variety of styles that are not closely related.

4)A belt grading system.

5) A centralized "head" figure from which all knowledge supposedly comes about all the styles.

"I don't want to hear this crap 'well, I haven't been to a school so I can't comment.'"

Then why did you ask ?


BTW, we don't only hold "closed" tournaments. Master Mullins has an open tournamnet in November. I'd love for you to stop trolling and come down.

[Water Dragon]

Originally posted by Judge Pen

BTW, we don't only hold "closed" tournaments. Master Mullins has an open tournamnet in November. I'd love for you to stop trolling and come down.

More info please!

[Judge Pen]

Right now the tentative date is November 1st in Johnson City Tennessee. I don't know what the rules will be this year, but last year had forms, weapons, internal form (either empty hand or weapon) point sparring (uugh) and non-stop sparring. Non-stop is two 45 second rounds with head gear, gloves, shin pads, mouthpiece, and groin protection. The contact is not full, but they do allow contact to the head as long as its not excessive. Take downs are allowed if followed up with a strike, but there's no grappelling per se. The will break you after three seconds.

I'll let you know more when I know it.

[MasterKiller]

That is the "Day of the Tiger, Night of the Dragon V Invitational Tournament"?

[Judge Pen]

Yes, MK it is.

[CrippledAvenger]

Originally posted by Judge Pen
. Non-stop is two 45 second rounds with head gear, gloves, shin pads, mouthpiece, and groin protection. The contact is not full, but they do allow contact to the head as long as its not excessive. Take downs are allowed if followed up with a strike, but there's no grappelling per se. The will break you after three seconds.

Not ragging on you Judge's Pen, but that's a pretty weak set-up for sparring. 45 second rounds? That's not even half of what most people train for. No throws, I take it either?

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by CrippledAvenger


Not ragging on you Judge's Pen, but that's a pretty weak set-up for sparring. 45 second rounds? That's not even half of what most people train for. No throws, I take it either?

I agree its not ideal. Throws are allowed.

[MasterKiller]

Well, most tournies don't allow throwing, so kudos for that.

How many different schools usually attend?

How does one get invited?

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by MasterKiller
Well, most tournies don't allow throwing, so kudos for that.

How many different schools usually attend?

How does one get invited?

There's only one other CMA school around here and that's Wah Lum. A lot of SD schools come down to attend and several karate and TKD schools come down. There is even a Capoeria school that fights. We basically invite every school in the area, and I'll check about other invitations. I really don't think the invitations are exclusive and he'll let anyone sign up.

I think that SD (the forum member) is coming up. You could catch a ride with him. I'd love to see you perform your Monk's Spade.

[MasterKiller]

Does Wah Lum compete there?

[Evad]

Well concerning the original topic of the thread, here's my favorite quote from the site.

"The use of extraordinary Nae Gong energy to miraculously change the size of different parts of his body at will. Only a few people around the world are known to be capable of this feat."

Vi Agr A Ch'uan....very dangerous....

Fu Pow you need to learn this so the rest of your body can catch up to your fantastic ego. Have you considered starting a support group for the recovering SD stylist? Then they could learn some real material from you and be happy all the rest of their days.

You really put the FU in Fu Pow

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by MasterKiller
Does Wah Lum compete there?

They did the year before last. I don't know why they did not last year. I'm hoping that they will again this year.

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by Evad


You really put the FU in Fu Pow

Lol.