Is this move actually fatal?

**Ikken Hisatsu** · 08-31-2003, 12:08 AM

yeah its not that we dont belive you, you're getting majorly paranoid. I remember the good old days of primary school fights, when people could bash each other in the face and it wouldnt hurt because a 4 year olds fist is not a scary thing

**Liokault** · 08-31-2003, 04:05 AM

Hmmmm I'm not sure about this but if the person was unaware that the neck break was about to happen (as is the senario in the films) then its more belivable.

From what i remember there is not much physically stoping the neck rotate to far as oposed to seperating by hanging.

**Ryu** · 08-31-2003, 08:05 AM

LOL @ the 8th grade "navy seal"!!

Why on earth would you believe that an 8th grade kid (literally about 13-14 years old) would have any "marine" training whatsoever???

I believe your story about the fight, but you've had your leg pulled if you think this little kid was a "seal."

HS can be rough. I got into so many fights through school I stopped counting.
Thank God for growing up.

Ryu

**Stranger** · 08-31-2003, 08:25 AM

Ryu,

I thnk he was trying to wrie that the teacher had been a SEAL or marine.

PS When you refer to a US Naval commando, they are called a SEAL (all capitals), not a seal, as in an aquatic mammal, or Seal, as in the pop singer. It might not seem like much a difference to the laymen, but they take it very seriously.

**ShifuBinks** · 08-31-2003, 09:59 AM

ill say. calm down man, deep breaths. we are all friends here

If I came <gasp> off sounding defensive <gasp> or out of breath <gasp> when I <gasp> <gasp> made my last couple of posts then I must have used the wrong font...or it might have had something to do with the fact that I was typing on my friends computer and my friend is from Planet Spaceball. Maybe I just need to do more cardio....

I was just providing Ironfist with a relevant story and when someone else questioned this story's validity I tried to assure Ironfist and anyone else interested that this story was indeed true.

PS When you refer to a US Naval commando, they are called a SEAL (all capitals), not a seal, as in an aquatic mammal, or Seal, as in the pop singer. It might not seem like much a difference to the laymen, but they take it very seriously.

Thank you for pointing this out to me. No offense intended I was just in a hurry as I typed that first post and as Hisatsu pointed out I was running out of breath from typing.

**ShifuBinks** · 08-31-2003, 10:15 AM

LOL @ the 8th grade "navy seal"!!

Well he wasn't actually a SEAL, but he did know their moves...he had learned them through a correspondence course that he saw in Black Belt. They told him this move was lethal so he tried it on me the next day.

I actually was thinking some people might interpret it this way as I did not make it very clear which one was the one with the training...the kid just pulled the move out of his @$$, the teacher said he had really learned it...

**Merryprankster** · 08-31-2003, 10:54 AM

I don't see what's so unbelievable about the story. Totally plausible.

**Ryu** · 08-31-2003, 11:17 AM

Oops. I misunderstood.

Ryu

**CaptinPickAxe** · 08-31-2003, 12:29 PM

I know its easy to break a neck by dislocation-by-elongation.

**old jong** · 08-31-2003, 04:24 PM

It is fatal when done by Bolo Yeung!...

**Oso** · 08-31-2003, 04:43 PM

are we talking snapping the neck so the head flops around or just cracking the vertibrae enough so it hurts like hell?

**neigung** · 08-31-2003, 04:54 PM

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. MA's contain dozens, if not hundreds of working techniques designed to break limbs (arms, etc.). Why wouldn't a neck break, if done correctly, work?

**Oso** · 08-31-2003, 05:00 PM

the problem w/ 'neck breaks' is that you can only discuss them in theory. I've been shown the angles and such from someone I trust to have the knowledge but other than fitting in to the position there is no way to practice it. so, if you get the drop on a guy like 'in the movies' there are many other options that can be practiced much more realistically....

and somebody give Ironfist a 'post per day' limit

**Merryprankster** · 08-31-2003, 06:02 PM

Dislocating is really hard. You can pull a muscle pretty easily, but causing REAL injury is going to be difficult.

Try this--go to a store and buy a whole roasting chicken.

Now, tear it apart without tools. Try it with a turkey.

I realize the leverage is different, but it's hard, awkward and unreliable.

**Oso** · 08-31-2003, 06:06 PM

that's what I was trying to say.

if I get the drop on a guy from behind I'd probably stomp the knee from behind to lower him a bit and then attempt to maybe grab the head and put an elbow behind the ear.

or take some re-wire and wrap it around his neck really tight and twist the ends together and then sit back and drink a beer.

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