Tan Tui- Is it a separate school of its own?

[stimulant]

I just saw the Tan Tui on http://emptyflower.stanford.edu/

it is sooooo similar to the ones Lu Jun Hai of Mizong Quan teaches.

[norther practitioner]

It is very similar to mine as well, I'll have to ask my teacher who taught him our version.

[rik]

After all this talk about Tan Tui I remembered a book about 10 section Tan Tui I bought in the early 80's.
I have most of them stored in my basement in boxes :-)))) and after some rummaging about I did find a couple.
One, you might find interesting was written in 1982 by Ma Zhenbang. He had studied 10 section Tan Tui and other Cha Quan sets from Ma Enchen of Shaanxi Province in the early 1940's. The set strongly resembles Shifu Han's set but is done with much lower postures. The forearm position after the circular movement, that is done after many of the punches, has it positioned waist high and parallel to the ground in front of the body (we do this as well). Other than #8 the most have some resemblance to
the first 10 lines of our Shaolin 12 section Tan Tui.

The poem for the set is as follows. (We interpret #9 to contain a wrist lock used as a counter, so I found the poem rather interesting.)
Note the ending advice.

#1 coherent steps that are hard resist.
#2 the skill of cross that gives you the knack of springing and shooting
#3 slash and squash that you can brave the darkness
#4 enables you to block the adversary with a shooting palm
#5 prepares you for an incoming intent
#6 guides you to advance and grapple by artifice of crooking and sprinkling
#7 teaches you the flowery elbow bending as a means of defense
#8 directs you stamp and tread with body rotation and hands waving.
#9 nine gives the skill of locking and sticking with a sweeping leg of a mandarin duck
#10 teaches you the flying kick - the key skill of spring leg
the poem continues:
If you do not follow the set rules, you r practice is a mere waste of time.
Plain and simple though the skill may be, you will find it a powerful
weapon after persistent training and practice.
Protecting body and building up strength, it offers you manifold skill in fighting the enemy.
As the first technique since beginning of history, the Ten Routine Spring Leg
handed down from generation to generation.

r.

[stimulant]

I've just posted a description of our MiZong Quan Tan Tui 1 in the 'how many variations of traditional Tan Tui are there???' thread. Does anyone do the same vaerison as me?

[GeneChing]

This forum is a great resource if you use our search function before you ask. We had a wonderful thread on Tan tui lyrics last year.

[count]

Originally posted by GeneChing
This forum is a great resource if you use our search function before you ask. We had a wonderful thread on Tan tui lyrics last year.

Forgive my internet faugh-pah your exhalted, high poobah of the board. Next time I may just do that but since I thought it was relevant at the moment of the dialog I thought I would bring it up again. I missed that thread since I generally hang around the internal board as a preference. I didn't realize the level of expertise and sharing as well as the civil manner of discussions on this board. Thank you all. But since you brought it up, I notice some of your translations clearly speak of qinna and throws. Interesting.

[GeneChing]

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off sounding negative. I'm sure there's plenty of threads I've forgotten over the years. Lord, I hope so.

The lyrics thread project last year was really well received. It was a lot of fun and it brought out some great discussion amongst the BSL members of our forum here.