Who would win a fight between these two invincible warriors, and why?
Who would win a fight between these two invincible warriors, and why?
Two words: CHI BLAST
Trick question. They might be the same person.
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Assuming a Good ground fighter isn't of equal skill to a "Real" kung fu Master, then the Master should win because his footwork and counters should be good enough to avoid the takedown. If they were of equal skill. . . . then I don't know.
MP's right. There's no reason they can't be the same person.
Well, since the Chinese figured out a long time ago that slippery silk pajamas are the ultimate anti-grappling outfit, the grappler would have no chance. However, if the grappler has entered into his 3rd month of high school wrestling, then I may rethink my position.
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For the most part we generally know what "good grappler" means. For this discussion I'll say that means the person is average at a number of ranges... takedown, throws, position, submission.
What is a Real Kung Fu Master? I don't think any mention of one has ever been posted on here. Would that be a Shaolin Monk?
I'll go with the good grappler to defeat the "whatever the hell a Real Kung Fu Master is" guy.
Depends on if the kung fu master has any friends around, or is it a "controlled" environment like the UFC (read UNREALISTIC).
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OOOoooo goody! Another hater! How Original!!Depends on if the kung fu master has any friends around, or is it a "controlled" environment like the UFC (read UNREALISTIC).
"In the world of martial arts, respect is often a given. In the real world, it must be earned."
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. "--Bertrand Russell
"Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. "--Benjamin Disraeli
"A conservative government is an organised hypocrisy."--Benjamin Disraeli
Anyone can be beaten, even a "master." Even Joe Montana threw a few intereceptions every year, and not everyone who caught one of those balls was a better player than him. A real master is someone who will win more often than not, not someone who can't be beaten.Originally posted by Judge Pen
Well, my point is a master of _____ style should be better than someone who is merely good at _______ style (no matter what the art). If a good grappler can beat a kung fu master, then the guy isn't a real master.
Bull****! They were ALL better than Montana!!!Anyone can be beaten, even a "master." Even Joe Montana threw a few intereceptions every year, and not everyone who caught one of those balls was a better player than him. A real master is someone who will win more often than not, not someone who can't be beaten.
"In the world of martial arts, respect is often a given. In the real world, it must be earned."
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. "--Bertrand Russell
"Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. "--Benjamin Disraeli
"A conservative government is an organised hypocrisy."--Benjamin Disraeli
I was going to use Otto Graham as the example, but I doubt anyone outside of Ohio would have gotten the reference.Originally posted by Merryprankster
Bull****! They were ALL better than Montana!!!
WD,
First I was only going to give you a 2.2, but seeing as you actually got some responses, I have decided to re-score you at a 4.875
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Now that there is some indisputably conclusive circular logicOriginally posted by Judge Pen
Well, my point is a master of _____ style should be better than someone who is merely good at _______ style (no matter what the art). If a good grappler can beat a kung fu master, then the guy isn't a real master.
Considering that the 'real' kung fu master was a chef, not a Wu Shu exponent, the good grappler.
Considering that the 'real' kung fu master fights with a 50lb broadsword and not empty handed - the RKF guy.
Or it depends on a great many factors...what kind of grappling? How aware of each others tactics? Who just ate a big burrito? Who's wife is supportive? Who's is a nag? They fighting with weapons? They oiling up or wearing silk pajamas and on and on and on...
Is it crossing hands or a deul? What kind of 'kung fu'?
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