Re: Emei/Omei Region
QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim Roselando
Hello,
This topic will be an off-shoot of a discussion regarding Snake Body going on in the Weng Chun Sup Yat thread!
So, there are some who do not want to believe there is a possible connection with Emei and Wing Chun.
I started to look into different art that show roots in that region ... We can use a few systems or methods as examples;
Ba Gwa: This art often claims roots in Emei region and various lineages state different descriptions regarding the body/engine! You can hear the body/engine often described as Snake Body by Park Bok Nam and other groups. You can hear the body/engine descrbed to as Swimming Body by the Gao people. You can hear the body/engine described to as Swimming Dragon by other groups! All coming from Emei!
Zhuang: Yee Chuan grandmaster Wang Xiang Zhai ( while not emei but a good connection) states: The body is like a swimming Dragon and if Miao Shun own knowledge was Emei Zhuang then thats a good sign!
Yuen Kay San lineage: Although not claiming to be an Emei based art we can see in some writing that they also state; Swimming Dragon is memory serves me correctly and Rene can probally help me out if I am wrong!
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Recently I recieved some footage of Fukien Crane and while the Ging was different from Wing Chun the hand skills were remarkable similar to Leung Jan's teaching. I sent this footage to Hendrik and he was the one who told me .....
So, if almost all Wing Chun claim to be a combo of Snake and Crane then would it be that the Snake is really the body and the Crane is the boxing? ....
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Hello Jim, since you asked here are a few thoughts ....
To paraphrase the above,
1. You believe the origin of wing chun comes from Emei and Fujian White Crane because you watched some videos and Hedrick "told you" the name of a form.
To support your the Emei connection you quote Bagua kung fu followed by two sources with no connection to Emei. Yi Chuan Grandmaster Wang Xiang Zhai (who you admit "while not emei" but you still consider him a connection???) and YKSWCK which you correctly state "Although not claiming to be an Emei based art.... "
In addition to Yuan Kay San, his Sihing doesn't claim any connection to Emei. In fact, the Wing Chun system of his Sihing claims Shaolin roots!!!
So tell us again how does this support an Emei connection to Wing Chun?
With loose connections like the ones above are you seriously confused as to why there are "some who do not want to believe there is a possible connection with Emei and Wing Chun." Instead of why don't they it should be why would they?
As for the White Crane aspect that's for another post.
-David
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