Originally posted by sihing
Thai Boxers, yeah to a degree, but lets be honest, the toughest and fastest guy will win
No, the toughest guy with the greater skill. All thai boxers train to be tough and fast - it's part of the training. The advantage is skill level.
hittin trees and toughening drills for shins does not constitute skill attributes. I remember watching Peter Cunningham back in the early 90's fighting a Champion Thai Boxer, and he outclassed him big time when it came to footwork and putting combinations together and such, more skill needed there than kicking a knee....And yes he won the fight.
Happens all the time. I've seen several TMA who outclass their opponents skill wise get stomped in streetfights. It's just one of those things that have no guarantee.
Then the fight starts and both fighters look the same, sloppy boxing on the most part. Rarely do they apply what they have learned when stand up fighting.
most of the guys are grapplers who have little striking training. Naturally the striking looks sloppy. Watch the guys who are trained strikers - lidell, cro cop, sak, in the old days, maurice smith... these guys show good striking skills.
Vitor Belfort really put his combos together with great speed and straight attacks, similar to WC, those attacks blew people away for awhile. Just imagine if he learned WC and incorporated that to his style....
not similar to WC, similar to boxing. had he trained in WC, he woulda been the same way. He put his techniques together like that because he was a competitve boxer. He actually thought about going pro. IMO though, he's a great mma but would've gotten eaten alive as a boxer.
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