Wing Chun on the ground

[anerlich]

in this case Inosanto. he generally shows respect to most other good martial artists he interacts with.

Indeed he does, we could follow his example, and respect *him* by taking what he says as an honest opinion rather than his just blowing sunshine up William Cheung's posterior cavity, as you seem to imply.

[Vajramusti]

as you seem to imply.

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Didnt imply that at all. Inosanto himself moves on-he interacts with people and then moves on- did that with Lee,
Moy Yat, Cheung as well. He evolves too.

[Ultimatewingchun]

"Didn't imply that at all." (Joy)

WHAT A PHONEY.

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by Vajramusti
in this case Inosanto. he generally shows respect to most other good martial artists he interacts with.

Dan is a super nice guy. He gives respect to pretty much everybody. This is not meant as a put down to him or anyone that he might endorse, but he always has something nice to say about everyone, whether they are good or not so good.

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by Vajramusti
But generally its a bad idea to go to the ground.

Really? It's generally a bad idea to go to the ground?
If you are a groundfighter and there are no "bystanders" around, it's a huge advantage to take the fight to the ground.
If you are concerned that he might have a weapon and you are familiar with groundfighting and weapons, it is a huge advantage to take the fight to the ground.
If you are in law enforement and you need to hook up a big, strong, athletic suspect who is resisting, it is a huge advantage to take him to the ground if you have training in that aspect of a confrontation.

Originally posted by Vajramusti
relaxed wing chun
controlling motions and strikes can still work. The strikes that i have seen by some wing... Of course it has to be practiced and experimented with but...
Many things can be used....
...strike with the other hand. And, proper relaxation and adjustments and not straightening..
.. out the elbow
.
....ground. Legs have an important role on the ground- hips do- hands do.
This is not just theory- experiential as well.

If it's not just theory, which groundfighters have to tested it against?

[Vajramusti]

WHAT A PHONEY.
---------------------------------Labelling ignored.
Others see KF's good characterization of Inosanto in the next post.

[Ultimatewingchun]

Labelling accurate.

And yes...KF does make a good point about Inosanto.

But it's one thing to say that someone is "good"- and let it go at that...It's quite another thing to spell it out in very clear detail exactly why one is in "awe" of William Cheung's TWC system.

Which is precisely the point that you...Joy...was attempting to obscure.