i guess thats about all i have to say about it.
i guess thats about all i have to say about it.
where's my beer?
It affected me as deeply as Terry Schschhshchiavo. Which affected me as deeply as it did Maddox. When I found out who she was (through Maddox - I'd been resolutely avoiding that piece of "news" for weeks).
Of course I feel sorry for the billion Catholics to whom he meant something. But I still wish they'd die along with all the Jews and the Moslems, and leave the world to (us) Buddhists and (us) ****roaches...!
See you in Hell GDA...
I'll have to remember that the next time something that means something to you comes up, Mat. Though I shouldn't say anything, as I discided not to go to church today because it will likely be a miserable mass...
It's kinda sad, as he's been the Pope since I was a little girl, but other than allowing divorcees to accept the Eucharist, little of what he did made any real impact on me.
Hallelujah the pope is dead! It is good he is dead!
The poor guy was being kept alive with medical technology. He should have died months ago. Every time I saw him, he seemed to be suffering in agony. He was 84 or so right? People die. When it is time to go you are supposed to go. Not let people fill you full of drugs or hook you to machines so you gain another few pain filled months or years.
Honestly, would you want your last memories to be of all the good things you did in life or would you want your memories to be dominated by the last few months/years of invasive medical procedures, physical pain and probable loss of mental acuity?
I agree, but this case is different. I think the pope wanted to go through everything he did as an example, that life is about suffering and it can be endured. He was very dedicated, he was doing church business up until the end.Originally Posted by Happeh
I'm not particularly religious, definitely not affiliated with any organized religion. I didn't agree with some of the things the pope professed, but he was still impressive. It's somehow reassuring to see how a major religion can sincerely try to be a force for good in the world and not just exist to promote their own political agenda.
I think he died respectfully.
He did alot in his "career" as the pope
his passing shouldn't be a mournful thing, his accomplishments should be celebrated within the catholic community, why is everyone sad?
surely they believe in heaven, I would think that based on thier belief system the pope's soul would be now united with the lord.
eventually there will be a new pope. I'm very worried about (the possibility of) what a new pope with a new agenda will have to bring to the table.
hundreds and thousands die everyday. what of them?
this cause of celebrity is ridiculous.
are we all so vapid and vaccuous?
the pope is dead, move on, you'll have another in a few days who's ring you may kiss to your hearts content should you ain an audience.
Kung Fu is good for you.
I'm not so much sad at his passing, as at the realization that the bible thumpers in the Catholic communities are going to be holy terrors (the pu was intended). I worship as I feel I need to, and for the next several weeks, or even months, there will be thouse who will be critisizing me and my family for this. There is always an uproar of "we need to go back to doing things the old way." The old way, for me, did not work. And the idea that someone can and will use the passing of this great man as an excuse to go against everything he stood for is sad...
Didn't know you were Catholic.Originally Posted by Starchaser107
Every pope addresses what areas he's led to, I guess is a good way to put it. This one had to clear out some rubbish that affected his own people, then the larger world, and maybe he couldn't deal, with everything everyone would have wished, but for all that he was a light unto this world.
Perhaps the next one will see another sort of work to be done. Reforming the excesses of the US Church [or exposing them and holding evry priest accountable], addressing the scourge of AIDS and other diseases in a new way, supporting third world freedom from tyranny, or [I'll bet] working to heal the rifts with Islam, especially to prevent further wars.
At their best, any pope does his level best to do good in the world. I hope the new one will be even half as effective as JPII was since we could all use some of that. The danger is that he'll see so much to do and spread his admittedly limited influence too thin & exhaust himself in the process. Or do nothing much at all other than shepherd.
Although I am not Catholic, I think I will take the time to grieve Pope John Paul II. Because it is human to do so, yes, but also because after being constantly reminded over the past couple of weeks how less than ordinary most of us are, it makes me sad and lonely to lose someone that is extraordinary.
-Thos. Zinn
"Children, never fuss or fret
Nor let unreason'd tempers rise
Your little hands were never meant
To pluck out one anothers eyes"
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“We are at a crossroads. One path leads to despair and the other to total extinction. I pray I have the wisdom to choose wisely.”
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It is to laugh. And cry.It's somehow reassuring to see how a major religion can sincerely try to be a force for good in the world and not just exist to promote their own political agenda.
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Crippled Avenger
"It is the same in all wars; the soldiers do the fighting, the journalists do the shouting, and no true patriot ever get near a front-line trench, except on the briefest of propoganda visits...Perhaps when the next great war comes we may see that sight unprecendented in all history, a jingo with a bullet-hole in him."
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Mourning.
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I think it's ironic that a user with the name GunnedDownAtrocity started a thread about the pope's death.
-Will
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Don't forget he was a diplomatic figure too, with a great impact in issues like the possibility of war between Argentine and Chile and the fall of communism.
His heart and intentions were never wrong, nor did he ever stop doing what he believed in. He showed dedication and discipline the likes of which we will never see from anyone on this forum for any reason.
He's traveled the world and won the hearts and approval of the most powerful people ever to step foot on this earth to date.
I'm sure him not winning any of yours is not that big of a deal.
The whole world has lost a great man.
God bless him.
We have lost a good man who was a true leader. His efforts to bring about as much unity as possible will always been appreciated by me and many others. He showed us how to live and how to face death. I will miss him, but will also see him again some day.
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