Does anyone have the major praying mantis styles (12 I think)? I know wah lum had a handbook with these but I don't seem to remember all of them.
jut sao
plum flower
tai chi
tai chi plum flower
Does anyone have the major praying mantis styles (12 I think)? I know wah lum had a handbook with these but I don't seem to remember all of them.
jut sao
plum flower
tai chi
tai chi plum flower
just got out my wah lum hand book the 12 styles are
Seven Star = Chut Sing
Plum Flower = Moi Fa
Tai chi = Tai Gick
Plum Flower Tai Chi = Moi Fa Tai Gick
Wrestling Hands = Jut Sow
Secret Style = Bay Moon
Jade ring = Yuk Yuan
Six harmony = Lok Haap
Eight Step = Baat Bo
Rigid = Ngan
Flat Plate (Spotless) = Gong barn
Goddess Chi = Sun Gick
thanks dude,
you know the style you are learning right?
Jut sow tong long, with tam tui, aka wah lum, the question is with a need for this list do you know what style you are doing?
In reference to:
Wrestling Hands = Jut Sow
Secret Style = Bay Moon
Rigid = Ngan
Goddess Chi = Sun Gick
I am not overly familiar with them;
If you wouldn't mind a quick & dirty description & would be grateful.
(Mainly "Secret Style" & "Goddess Chi")
Thanks,
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Seceret Door or Mimen was basically Meihua, but Zhang De Kuis students started calling it Mimen after he passed. Basically my understanding is that it is Meihua.
Wrestling hands or Shuai Shou is relatively obscure, but Mike Martello and one of his students Rene Ho have posted some things on it on the Mantis Quarterly forum undedr Lipi.
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I agreed with 3H.
I believe the major styles are:
Taiji
Meihwa
Liuhe (originally Liuhe Chui Tanglang Shou)
Qixing
Sub styles or hybirds are
Taiji Meihwa
Hao family Taiji Meihwa
Mimen
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Babu
Yingyang
Jingshou
Guangban
Yuhuan
Tongbi (personally I think Fanche and Tongbi are the same but not 100% sure)
Changquan
Wah Lum Tan Tui
Meiwha Shuai Shou (or simply Shuai Shou)
Shenji
Shanxi Qixing
I personally believe that WHF's vision of Tanglang of GM LGY (BeiTanglang) qualifies as a substyle. But that just me.
Liuhe also has 2 main substyles.
There are certain obscured hybird such as Cuo Jiao Fanzi Tanglang Jiu Shou. But that's quite obscure.
That's my take on the PM styles.
Mantis108
PS there is also a fake Taiji Tanglang style (a mainland Chinese book) using southern Mantis' history as it origin. It a grotesque combination of Sanda/kick boxing and some Katana, knife and wier weaponry.
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The only northern PM styles I know of are as follows:
Seven Star
Plum Blossom
Six Combinations(Six Harmony)
Spotless
Secret Door
Jade Ring
Dragging Hand
Eight Step
Tan Tui
and Tai Chi
Kind of interesting to know there are more than what I just listed, anyway those are the ones that I know of, later.
Three,
Zhang Dekuei called it Gu Tang Lang.
Su Yuzhang coined(supposedly) the term mimen, though I here he and his son always call it bimen, though the character is pronounced bi.
My Shifu went along with it as it sounds good, though he admitted that Zhang never used the term.
Somewhere in Europe is Corja Mantis.
I hear that corja is from Chinese Gu Zhao-old and early. Sounds like a credible story, sure would like to see what they do.
Zhang's curriculum was mighty traditional.
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Never hear hear of goddess chi. Sungick is not something people in Shandong say though.
My guess is sun is Cantonese for Shen, which could mean god, goddess, spirit etc
pardon my ignorance but what is 'Gu' ?Originally Posted by K.Brazier
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YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GU IS???????????? I will save the perverted smartass response for my brother Shirkers!
Just kidding, I was wondering the same thing actually.
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gu means ancient, if it's the tone i'm thinking of (much like classical chinese - gu wen). so gu tanglang quan AKA mimen is ancient mantis boxing. I'm sure shifu Brazier can confirm.
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Thats gringo-ese for thanks!
Jake
Last edited by Three Harmonies; 05-25-2005 at 02:53 PM.
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Gu simply means ancient which is also in relation to historic time. Lao (old) is more in relation to physical or biological time.
And I am both Gu and Lao. lol.... (feels that way everyday anyway)
Hope this helps
Warm regards
Mantis108
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對敵交手歌訣
凡立勢不可站定。凡交手須是要走。千着萬着﹐走為上着﹐進為高着﹐閃賺騰挪為
妙着。
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