Forward, backward and a circle

[SPJ]

Yes. He said that everything is illusory.

"Everything is nothing." In Chinese, it is said that everything is empty or void.

This thread actually spun out of the Yoda thread.

Let me turn it into another direction. Using the same title.

What would be your strategy of moving forward and backward in your style of MA?

In Tai Chi, it is said that when moving forward or retreating, there should be a turn exchange or reverse rotation. Jin Tui You Zhuan Huan 进退有转换

In Ba Gua, it is said that move away by crossing steps; advance or enter directly. Xie Chu Zheng Ru 斜出正入

[Innocence]

look for the Invisible Pink Unicorn
all will be revealed to you

hehe
when I saw this, I thought wow he's a zen master~ but then i read that thing under his name and i wa slike errr. maybe not

haha~
Well i'm new here so not too sure what happened with the yoda post. My guess as to what the buddha meant when he said that everything is just illusion is...mmm...ok, we have thoughts. When we see the white horse, as previously discussed, the light (photons) reflect off it, into our eyes (retina), and via some form of electrical signals, to the brain, and then we "see" the horse, but we don't actually "see" the horse out there, we more see it in our mind.

Hmm, sorry I side tracked a bit there, I actually wanted to make the point that I think he meant the only 'reality' is the exact present moment, which is impossible to capture(?), and our thoughts are always filled with the past (what happened at work today) or the future (what will I do tomoro), we are never in the present. Our minds are never in the present, and our thoughts are never in the present. Hence everything is illusion.

haha, I hope someone who can understand that can elaborate. It's the best I can do, and it's a bit wobbly.

[ZIM]

Innocence-
My reply would be that attending to the present moment is more the method than the destination. If everything is samsara & dukka [illusion & the suffering from that illusion] then being in the present leads away from that, but doesn't by itself take you out of it to nirvana [extinction].

To use an old cliche: To focus on that is staring at the finger, not to where the finger is pointing.

But SPJ wanted to drop it, so I'll respect that.

[David Jamieson]

wow, I am surprised nobody went off with the Krang and Kodos "and always twirling, twirling..." line to this thread title...

oh wait, I partially just did.

very good then.

[Innocence]

heya ZIM~

being in the present allows us to see the transient nature of things, always changing, impermanence. Which leads to the way out of samsara

I thought that was important, so just mention it ^^
Thanks for the disussion hehe.

Sorry SPJ i cant really contribute to your question. My style doesnt have strategies governing stepping in and out. (although I was told try not to step back, and step in to meet attacks and continue to step in with heavy hand attacks)

[BibitClerus]

allow me to guide you through the path

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn
http://www.infidels.org/misc/ipu/ipu.html
http://www.palmyra.demon.co.uk/humour/ipu.htm
http://www.geocities.com/ipu_temple/
http://www.invisiblepinkunicorn.com/